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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314639 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: Hi Stefan, >> I'm not sure, but I vaguely remember that this kind of quoting wasn't >> needed anymore since Emacs 27.1. Am I wrong? > > We've fixed most places that get tripped up, yes, but > `outline-minor-mode` still uses a simple regexp and thus gets confused. Well, we're speaking 'bout Tramp Lisp files. I don't see how they will be affected by `outline-minor-mode`. I really like to remove this \( quoting from Tramp sources where possible. Is there a real blocker for this? --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- # grep '^\\(' lisp/net/tramp*.el lisp/net/tramp.el:\(FUNCTION FILE). FUNCTION is responsible to extract user names and host lisp/net/tramp.el:\(replace \"xxx\" and \"yyy\" by the remote user and host name, lisp/net/tramp.el:\(like \"ssh\"), because setting `tramp-chunksize' to non-nil decreases lisp/net/tramp.el:\(fn (SECONDS TIMEOUT-FORMS...) BODY)" lisp/net/tramp-sh.el:\(FORMAT ENCODING DECODING) lisp/net/tramp-sh.el:\(FORMAT ENCODING DECODING [TEST]) lisp/net/tramp-sh.el:\(COMPRESS DECOMPRESS) --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8--- > I wouldn't be surprised if there are others out there. Sure. But we shall fix these cases when they appear. > Stefan Best regards, Michael.