From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Landscheidt Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Translating the eps files in lispintro Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:09:58 +0000 Organization: https://www.tim-landscheidt.de/ Message-ID: <87bk9cav55.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> References: <358143F2-8762-40B1-ABB1-2280EF291A45@traductaire-libre.org> <87plxt3fu6.fsf@vagabond.tim-landscheidt.de> <50B9A33C-4A1F-4C57-B9C7-C158FAAFBD6C@traductaire-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="36954"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.3 (gnu/linux) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Kangas To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 23 17:11:07 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1rSJMh-0009Rr-O3 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 17:11:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rSJLk-0001dy-UJ; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 11:10:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rSJLi-0001dg-Le for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 11:10:06 -0500 Original-Received: from gavdos.tim-landscheidt.de ([2a01:4f8:1c0c:4bd6::1]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1rSJLg-0005mC-Ff; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 11:10:06 -0500 Original-Received: from port-62-145-29-194.static.as20676.net ([62.145.29.194]:33820 helo=vagabond) by gavdos.tim-landscheidt.de with esmtpsa (TLS1.3) tls TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1rSJLb-00BGpw-1p; Tue, 23 Jan 2024 16:09:59 +0000 In-Reply-To: <50B9A33C-4A1F-4C57-B9C7-C158FAAFBD6C@traductaire-libre.org> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Mon, 22 Jan 2024 13:20:34 +0000") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a01:4f8:1c0c:4bd6::1; envelope-from=tim@tim-landscheidt.de; helo=gavdos.tim-landscheidt.de X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:315256 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: >>> [=E2=80=A6] >>> It would seem more practical to have a format that's a bit easier to ed= it (SVG, if only because it supports unicode) and from there use conversion= tools to create the required formats: >>> eps for TeX (DVI output) >>> pdf/png/jpg (jpeg) for TeX (PDF output) >>> png, jpg (jpeg), gif for HTML output (although the current output does = not use images but just plain text) >>> eps, gif, jpeg (jpg), pdf, png, svg for DocBook output >>> https://www.gnu.org/software/texinfo/manual/texinfo/texinfo.html#Images >>> Considering the needs of the lisp introduction, we could have svg for a= n eventual DocBook output, png for the HTML and PDF output, eps for the DVI= output and we'd be all set. >>> Or maybe the actual source for the EPS (and PDF) files found in the int= ro is somewhere else? Are the files created from the texinfo source? >> Looking at the images, it seems natural to write them in >> groff/pic and then generate whatever. > Do you have experience in generating images with non ascii text with grof= f? > I just tried a simple tutorial and it did not come out well. > The translation thread mentioned French, Chinese and Japanese. I have never tried anything non-Latin-1. Tim