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From: Emanuel Berg <incal@dataswamp.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library
Date: Sun, 21 Jul 2024 14:04:29 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87bk2r3q9e.fsf@dataswamp.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 87ed7n3sav.fsf@dataswamp.org

Where to actually start? After all this meta, maybe some words
on that the way I see it.

They way I would do it is to identify the simplest level or
place of math. Some people say logic is math, other say math
is based on logic, but to me, here, it doesn't matter since
I think arithmetic is much simpler than logic anyway.

So if we start there (this is again how I see it) one would
look around, what do we already have - this will be a lot, of
course. But are there things we don't have that are essential
and basic, or really interesting for that matter - then we
implement them, because at such a low level, we should cover
all or close to all things that are important.

And one shouldn't think, "well, we don't have it but one can
solve that with Elisp". Because one can solve everything with
Elisp! Here we want specific functions and we want them to be
fast, easy-to-use and readily available. (One will still have
to think what to add or not, as always.)

So when arithmetic is done - good work, pad pad - and we can
move up someplace else, maybe more challenging as well.
And the higher one will come, the more people will just do
what they are into, because it will be impossible to cover
everything of everything when it becomes that specialized.
But that is OK, free software is like that, people do what
they are into. And I dare say that people _will_ want to do
Combinatorics, Probability, Linear Algebra, and all crazy
stuff there is.

A challenge will be to find people who already have that kind
of stuff, maybe half-done. That will be a huge help to see,
what did they do, how far did they come, why didn't they
complete it, etc.

That is: at the basic level one must have pretty much
everything so why not start there?

Know that if we plan this for ELPA people will have made an
active choise to use it, that means we shouldn't be too afraid
to include stuff. They use it because they want it, so we
should make sure there is something there for them to get :)

-- 
underground experts united
https://dataswamp.org/~incal




  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-07-21 12:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-07-12 16:47 Add elisa to GNU ELPA Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 12:54 ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 13:57   ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 16:04     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 16:35       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-17 13:21         ` Andrew Hyatt
2024-07-16 16:41       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-16 17:02         ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 17:47           ` Adding a generic mathematical library Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-16 22:06             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-17  2:54               ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-17  5:58                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 16:16               ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-19 17:38                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  5:20                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-20 12:45                 ` Max Nikulin
2024-07-20 13:53                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  5:19                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  6:15                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  7:40                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  8:45                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  8:29                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  7:27                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  8:03                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21  9:14                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  9:48                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 11:20                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 11:53                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 12:10                               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:27                                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:46                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 13:03                                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:17                                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:33                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 14:41                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 14:49                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 14:58                                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 15:02                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:18                                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:18                                     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:26                                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:35                                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 19:28                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:33                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:51                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 20:01                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 20:17                                           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:41                                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 13:13                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 13:41                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:20                               ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 12:04                             ` Emanuel Berg [this message]
2024-07-21 14:30                 ` hypotenuse (was: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library) Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 14:44                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 15:12                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 15:42                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 16:13                           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 15:54                         ` hypotenuse Max Nikulin
2024-07-21 16:12                           ` hypotenuse Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21 16:17                             ` hypotenuse Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21 19:01                     ` hypotenuse (was: Re: Adding a generic mathematical library) Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 19:13                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-21 17:38                   ` tomas
2024-07-17  7:09             ` Adding a generic mathematical library Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-17  7:54               ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-17  7:56               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-18  6:07                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  6:45                   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-18  7:12                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  7:49                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  4:56                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  7:29                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-18  7:57                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  9:03                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-21  4:52                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  8:15                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-18  9:04                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-07-18  9:13                       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-21  4:59                         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 13:22                       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-19 16:12                         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-19 16:15                           ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-19 16:29                             ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-19 16:16               ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-19 18:00                 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-17 21:26   ` Add elisa to GNU ELPA Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-17 22:12     ` Philip Kaludercic
2024-07-18  3:45       ` Sergey Kostyaev
2024-07-18 11:06       ` Sergey Kostyaev
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2024-07-23 20:00 Adding a generic mathematical library Kepa
2024-07-25  4:19 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 11:32   ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 14:20     ` Stefan Kangas
2024-07-25 15:16       ` T.V Raman
2024-07-25 15:34       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 17:12         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 17:25       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 14:24     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-25 15:49       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-25 17:23         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 14:57 Shouran Ma
2024-07-27 15:49 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 19:07 Shouran Ma
2024-07-27 19:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28  0:29   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 10:58     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 11:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 12:28         ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 13:02           ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30  2:53     ` Richard Stallman
2024-07-30  3:53       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30  6:26       ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-30  7:20         ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-30 11:30           ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-30 22:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-31 16:00               ` Michael Heerdegen via Emacs development discussions.
2024-07-31 21:15                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-08-01  6:05                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-08-01  6:42                     ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-31 21:26                 ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-27 19:40 ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28  0:24   ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 13:34   ` Immanuel Litzroth
2024-07-28 13:56     ` Christopher Dimech
2024-07-28 14:07       ` Emanuel Berg
2024-07-28 10:46 ` Emanuel Berg

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