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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323744 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> When the two notions of version don't correspond to the same commit, it >> would be helpful if the user could be notified in some way. > > Yes, that'd be another reason to alert the user. > > Patches to that effect are welcome. I suppose if the output of M-x describe-package mentioned the commit hash in addition to the version the user would at least be aware when the same version numbers from different archives differ. Out of curiosity, is that what you had in mind, or something else? Displaying the commit date in addition to the commit hash could also be helpful. -- Suhail