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From: Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@ieee.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Default of send-mail-function
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2008 17:01:08 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87abk5b9zv.fsf@anzu.internal.golden-gryphon.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: v9prt12x5e.fsf_-_@marauder.physik.uni-ulm.de

On Mon, 07 Apr 2008 23:05:49 +0200, Reiner Steib
<reinersteib+gmane@imap.cc> said:  

> One might argue that this is better then relying on
> /usr/sbin/sendmail.  I'd tend to agree.

        It depends.  On most of my machines where I use emacs, and even
 resting those on which I use gnus, mail is always configured in order
 for various system processes to send reports out (like cron).  Most of
 these machines I do not have an http client installed, since my usage
 pattern differs.

        If I may put in my 2 cents as a user, I am not thrilled at what
 I perceive to be a current trend (in Debian, and now in emacs) to
 favour novice users at the expense of loyal old timers, and often the
 response given to me in Debian is that the tyranny of numbers leads to
 setting defaults that are less useful to people not coming into the
 fold from windows. The CUA and tmm discussions recently seem to
 reinforce this perception.

        While I have been using Emacs as my preferred editor since 1987,
 I am not a computer science graduate, nor have I any formal training in
 computers or lisp, so the argument that "expert" user can diagnose and
 fix behaviors they do not like fails to convince me; my reaction to the
 functionp/symbolp change was to remove developmental software I was
 helping to test.

        Sorry for the rant. I'll go back to lurking silently now.

        manoj
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-04-07 22:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-04-04 14:00 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q Reiner Steib
2008-04-04 15:33 ` Drew Adams
2008-04-04 15:47 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2008-04-04 17:48 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-04 18:03   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-04 18:25     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-04 18:34       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-04 20:25         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-04 22:06         ` Davis Herring
2008-04-05 18:46   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-05 18:58     ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-05 23:49       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-05 19:07     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-05 23:45       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-06  2:05         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-06  6:06           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-07  0:46             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07  7:56               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-07 15:57                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07 19:20                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-07 19:51                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-04-07 20:17                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 21:05                         ` Default of send-mail-function (was: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q) Reiner Steib
2008-04-07 21:26                           ` Default of send-mail-function Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 22:21                             ` Reiner Steib
2008-04-07 22:50                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08  0:50                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2008-04-08  8:24                               ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 11:40                                 ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-04-08 11:50                                   ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 14:36                                     ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-04-08 14:55                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-08 15:15                                         ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08 16:06                                           ` Manoj Srivastava
2008-04-08 14:58                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07 21:44                           ` Default of send-mail-function (was: 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q) Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-07 22:20                             ` Default of send-mail-function Reiner Steib
2008-04-08 18:24                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-04-07 22:01                           ` Manoj Srivastava [this message]
2008-04-07 21:13                         ` 23.0.60; Feature request: Menu item "load init files" after -q/-Q Stefan Monnier
2008-04-08  4:04                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-08  7:58                           ` Jason Rumney
2008-04-08  3:31                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2008-04-06  0:28       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-04-07  5:03 ` Chong Yidong

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