From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Stephen Berman Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Unrecoverable data loss Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 10:34:21 +0200 Message-ID: <87abimwv3m.fsf@escher.local.home> References: <87zlqnqxrl.fsf@escher.local.home> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1211186094 7174 80.91.229.12 (19 May 2008 08:34:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 08:34:54 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 19 10:35:32 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jy0qB-0001bt-GT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 10:35:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:57432 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jy0pR-00011F-GO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:34:45 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jy0pK-00010x-W8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:34:39 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Jy0pJ-00010k-1p for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:34:38 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=41230 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Jy0pI-00010h-PA for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:46665 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Jy0pI-00035Z-KE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 04:34:36 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1Jy0pC-0001ap-93 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 May 2008 08:34:30 +0000 Original-Received: from i5387c9e5.versanet.de ([83.135.201.229]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 08:34:30 +0000 Original-Received: from Stephen.Berman by i5387c9e5.versanet.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 19 May 2008 08:34:30 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 22 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: i5387c9e5.versanet.de User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:97385 Archived-At: On Mon, 19 May 2008 02:40:14 -0400 Richard M Stallman wrote: > This may deserve to be considered a matter of giving you enough > rope to hang yourself. I think it's more like Emacs luring the unsuspecting or forgetful into a trap. At least this is how I felt when it happened to me as I was preparing a post with Gnus, did what I described in my OP, was surprised to see that the links of the inserted text were clickable, and decided to click the one on the face value, unsuspecting or forgetful as I was that this would obliterate my post. If I had instead chosen to click the link on the code point value, it would have popped to a different buffer and I wouldn't have had to retype my post. Maybe Emacs was just trying to educate me not to click any link unless I know exactly what the consequences of doing so are. > But it would be easy to make some of those > commands give errors when not in Help mode. That's the least amount of help I would expect from Help mode. Steve Berman