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From: Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Florian Beck <abstraktion@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 04:13:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87abi4r3ci.fsf@sophokles.streitblatt.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwv63ss26am.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org> (Stefan Monnier's message of "Sun, 01 Jun 2008 20:38:44 -0400")

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>>>> Look, if you think my setup is bizzare, please ignore my report. But
>>>> I don't think it is.
>>> Me neither, see the sub-thread[1] about this in April on emacs-devel.
>> Well, /usr/sbin/sendmail indeed *does* exist on my system, although the
>> sendmail package is not installed.  Confusing, isn't it?
>
> Not necessarily: many packages (i.e. most MTAs) provide
> /usr/sbin/sendmail.  Could you try and figure out what that
> `/usr/sbin/sendmail' is?

It is from the postfix package, but obviously not configured:

fb@aeschylus:~$ sendmail
sendmail: fatal: open /etc/postfix/main.cf: No such file or directory
fb@aeschylus:~$ echo $?
75


>
>> Anyway, because the sendmail binary does exist,
>> message-send-mail-function returns message-send-mail-with-sendmail.
>> So that would not help.
>
> We definitely have a problem in this respect.  Traditionally on Unix,
> sending mail is done via the /usr/sbin/sendmail program, but nowadays
> it's very common to have such programs completely misconfigured.
> It's fundamentally a bug in the distributions, I believe, but it's not
> one that we can expect to see fixed any time soon, so we're going to
> have to deal with it.
>
>         Stefan

As a test, I installed sendmail from the ubuntu repository. It kind of
works, but only delivers mail locally. Of course, now sendmail returns
0. So a misconfigured sendmail may be difficult to detect.

-- 
Florian Beck




  reply	other threads:[~2008-06-02  2:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-05-30 12:59 23.0.60; emacs-report-bug fails silently Florian Beck
2008-05-30 13:59 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-30 21:42   ` Florian Beck
2008-05-30 21:52     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31  0:44       ` Florian Beck
2008-05-31  9:18         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31 10:56           ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01  2:47           ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01  8:04             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-05-31  9:53         ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-01  2:54           ` Florian Beck
2008-06-01  7:59             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2008-06-02  0:38             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-02  2:13               ` Florian Beck [this message]
2008-06-02  2:24                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05  5:27                 ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 11:53                   ` Florian Beck
2008-06-05 13:58                     ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 14:28                       ` Florian Beck
2008-06-06  6:01                         ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-06 19:04                           ` Richard M Stallman
2008-06-07  1:24                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-07  2:28                           ` Florian Beck
2008-06-07 14:23                             ` Chong Yidong
2008-06-07  7:50                           ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-13  4:15                           ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-06-13 14:17                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-02  8:07               ` Paul R
2008-06-02 18:56                 ` Reiner Steib
2008-06-02 19:15                   ` Paul R
2008-06-03  8:26                     ` tomas
2008-06-05  5:15                       ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-05 12:41                         ` tomas
2008-06-05 16:43                           ` Don Armstrong
2008-06-05 19:50                             ` Stefan Monnier
2008-06-01  5:36     ` Chong Yidong

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