From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: mail@justinbogner.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What are those .gitignore files doing in the CVS? Date: Fri, 06 Feb 2009 20:00:13 -0700 Message-ID: <87ab8zeyte.fsf@justinbogner.com> References: <877i46dy05.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87vdrpdeb7.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87eiyddb73.fsf@catnip.gol.com> <87myd08106.fsf@bar.jrock.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1233975649 3344 80.91.229.12 (7 Feb 2009 03:00:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 03:00:49 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Feb 07 04:02:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1LVdSD-0005ON-6F for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 04:02:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:34082 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LVdQu-00050D-1v for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:00:40 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LVdQo-000505-DN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1LVdQl-0004ym-1C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:00:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=35218 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1LVdQk-0004yf-Ht for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:00:30 -0500 Original-Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2]:50343 helo=ciao.gmane.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1LVdQj-00050X-Qh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 Feb 2009 22:00:30 -0500 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1LVdQe-0002LO-FX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:00:24 +0000 Original-Received: from s010600131023ed49.ed.shawcable.net ([68.149.184.55]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:00:24 +0000 Original-Received: from mail by s010600131023ed49.ed.shawcable.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 07 Feb 2009 03:00:24 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 35 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: s010600131023ed49.ed.shawcable.net User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/23.0.60 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:2hsO8vGQUMdJE576+Tt5+opcVJM= X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:108842 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: >> I agree here. I think most people just want to get the source code via >> their favorite method, hack a bit, and then be able to get a clean >> "stat" or "diff". > > That's irrelevant. My proposal is to push this responsibility on the > people who maintain the mirror. > >> Anyway, since I use Git, I appreciate the addition of .gitignore to the >> repository. > > Better would be to add it to the Git mirror without adding it to > Emacs's CVS. For you it wouldn't make any difference, except that you > might even have a cleaner Git because additionally to adding > .gitignore files, the mirror could remove the .cvsignore files, rename > INSTALL.CVS to INSTALL.GIT, you name it. > I agree, having both a .gitignore and a .cvsignore (or .hgignore or whatever) would be a bad thing. If the formats are all identical, a single .vc-ignore and symlinks would ensure that they all stay synchronized. If this is not the case (I haven't looked into it), then having the maintainers of the mirrors take care of these conversions accomplishes the same goal. If we have .gitignore, .hgignore, .cvsignore, .fancynewvcsignore, and 100 others, they will certainly become out of sync almost every time someone updates them, and even if everyone is extremely disciplined, they're redundant information. *if* it's completely unacceptable for the maintainers of the mirrors to maintain these, *and* the formats are incompatible, perhaps these files could be generated from a .vc-ignore template during the build process, though this seems like more effort than it's worth.