From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: kawabata.taichi@gmail.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: new Emacs HELLO file?? Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:16:40 +0900 Message-ID: <87ab1if6dj.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> References: <87fxbb7hp1.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87hbvrk2df.fsf@mail.jurta.org> <87tyzr5pq4.fsf%kawabata.taichi@gmail.com> <87fxba1e92.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1251595076 15172 80.91.229.12 (30 Aug 2009 01:17:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:17:56 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Juri Linkov Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 30 03:17:49 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1MhZ3E-0002dB-Q5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 03:17:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58476 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhZ3E-00015m-4h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:17:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhZ2p-00011l-2h for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:17:23 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1MhZ2n-00011U-Kr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:17:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=42831 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1MhZ2n-00011Q-Hn for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from clock.ocn.ne.jp ([122.28.30.213]:51716 helo=smtp.clock.ocn.ne.jp) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1MhZ2m-0004wa-O3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Aug 2009 21:17:21 -0400 Original-Received: from ubuntu.clock.ocn.ne.jp (p35169-adsau18honb3-acca.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp [211.122.77.169]) by smtp.clock.ocn.ne.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB7C28BD; Sun, 30 Aug 2009 10:17:17 +0900 (JST) User-Agent: Gnus/5.110011 (No Gnus v0.11) Emacs/23.1.50 (gnu/linux) Mule/6.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWOzZOJBsoQik=?= X-Operating-System: Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-24-server #1 SMP Fri Jul 24 23:27:55 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux Accept-Language: ja, en;q=0.6, zh;q=0.3, fr;q=0.1, la;q=0.01, sa;q=0.001 X-GPG-Key: http://pgp.nic.ad.jp:11371/pks/lookup?op=index&search=kawabata.taichi@gmail.com In-Reply-To: <87fxba1e92.fsf@mail.jurta.org> (Juri Linkov's message of "Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:43:17 +0300") X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: HP-UX 11.00-11.11 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:114863 Archived-At: >> In <87fxba1e92.fsf@mail.jurta.org>, Mr. Linkov wrote: > Omitting part of languages might cause some Emacs users to think that > we consider their languages insignificant. OTOH, adding more languages = > more loyal Emacs users. I mean the following reasoning of a novice > looking at the HELLO file: "Emacs supports my language - good! I'll > use it." How about adding new language per request basis?? If I do not misunderstand, main purposes of `HELLO' is to show and check multilingual (multi-script) capability of Emacs and font availability in user's installation. `Removing' existing languages in HELLO file may not certainly be appropriate. As there are thousands of languages in the world, attempting to add every languae unconditionaly may shadow the purpose of HELLO file. > If it is difficult to verify a group of scripts, we could group > languages by Unicode script names ordered by Unicode ranges like in > http://www.unicode.org/charts/ Difficulty comes from verifying if languages collected from the Internet is really correct, or did I properly copy them to the text file. Thanks for pointing me of an error on Breton and Catalan... That's my own mistake. -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- (kawabata.taichi@gmail.com) KAWABATA, Taichi