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* Re: redisplay system of emacs
@ 2010-01-29 19:48 grischka
  2010-01-30  5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
  2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 125+ messages in thread
From: grischka @ 2010-01-29 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: emacs-devel

David Kastrup wrote:
 > Since only explicitly FSF copyright-assigned contributions can be used
 > in Emacs, Emacs' involvement in the "free software ecosystem" as such is
 > purely contributing, not taking.

Emacs is contributing in the sense of providing a swiss knife to
produce free software, but not in the sense of being free software.
For that it would need to be modular.

One could imagine a modular emacs consisting of a lisp engine that
could be used without the editor, a display module that can be used
without windows/frames, an UI module that would allow to build
standalone applications.  That is applications with emacs under the
hood, as opposed to the one emacs with many applications under the
hood.

But as is, emacs comes with an implicit structural clause to its
license, as in "[You may convey a work based on the Program, ...]
BUT WE DO OUR BEST TO PREVENT THAT."

Well, that is how I see it.  Technical and structural reasons are
real, and if in practice such reasons prevent distribution of
modified versions, then the license becomes pointless.

Now, of course the problem exists elsewhere too.  People may or may
not be aware, and may or may not address it, in this or that way.

--- grischka





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* redisplay system of emacs
@ 2010-01-28  0:19 alin.s
  2010-01-28  4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
                   ` (3 more replies)
  0 siblings, 4 replies; 125+ messages in thread
From: alin.s @ 2010-01-28  0:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs-devel


I was wondering if it is possible to change the system of redisplay of emacs
to a less obfuscated one.

The current system , based on redisplay internal, for me it is very
obfuscated.

It could be possible to adopt a more clear system and keep all the other
functionalism ?

Could it be possible to take off all the redisplay and create a standardized
system of redisplay, that everybody can understand quickly? Everybody can
write an add-on for Mozilla. I do not know how redisplay of Mozilla works,
but as time as new add ons appear every day, that means that the system is
very standardized and easy to learn.

What are your opinions concerning this problem?



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2010-01-29 19:48 redisplay system of emacs grischka
2010-01-30  5:39 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30  9:53   ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:01     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:08       ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 11:54         ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:52           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 11:24       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 12:53       ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30  9:57   ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 11:46 ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:11   ` Paul R
2010-01-30 13:26     ` Alan Mackenzie
2010-01-30 13:42       ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 13:49       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-01-30 13:54       ` Paul R
2010-01-30 15:15         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 15:07       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-31 12:41     ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-31 16:36       ` grischka
2010-02-01 21:06         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02  3:32           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-02 21:21             ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-02 21:42               ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03  0:24                 ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03  6:45                   ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 13:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 14:15                   ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 14:18                     ` Daniel Colascione
2010-02-04 11:01                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03  2:48               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 12:19                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-04 11:00                   ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:06                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-05 12:44                       ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05 18:37                         ` grischka
2010-02-03 13:34                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-03 17:26                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-03 17:45                     ` David Kastrup
2010-02-03 18:35                     ` grischka
2010-02-03 18:36                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-02-03 19:03                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-03 20:31                         ` Ted Zlatanov
2010-02-03 20:37                           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-02-04  8:23                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 23:18                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-05  5:46                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-04 11:01                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 11:38                       ` David Kastrup
2010-02-05 19:08                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-04 12:28                       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
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2010-01-28  0:19 alin.s
2010-01-28  4:13 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28  9:07   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 11:27     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 11:47       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 12:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-28 12:53           ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-28 14:10             ` Miles Bader
2010-01-28 15:04               ` alin.s
2010-01-28 22:34               ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:04               ` Paul R
2010-01-29 10:17                 ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 10:23                   ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 10:30                     ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:18                       ` Lennart Borgman
2010-01-29 11:03                     ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 11:38                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:10                         ` Miles Bader
2010-01-29 17:30                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 10:48                   ` Paul R
2010-01-29 11:01                     ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 18:19                   ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 11:35                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 13:06                   ` Paul R
2010-01-29 13:10                     ` David Kastrup
2010-01-29 13:45                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-29 15:28                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-01-29 18:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 18:56                       ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 11:46                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-30 12:51                           ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 15:39                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 19:21                               ` Óscar Fuentes
2010-01-30 21:31                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-31  9:32                               ` David Kastrup
2010-01-31 12:41                             ` Richard Stallman
2010-01-29 19:53                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-01-30 18:04                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-30 18:39                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-30 10:34                       ` Fabian Ezequiel Gallina
2010-01-30 10:52                         ` David Kastrup
2010-01-30 21:18                         ` Stefan Monnier
2010-01-29 13:07                   ` David Kastrup
2010-01-28  5:10 ` Ken Hori
2010-01-28 12:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-01-28 13:41   ` alin.s
2010-01-28 14:50     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-02-12  8:31 ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:10   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-02-12 13:41     ` alin.s
2010-02-12 12:49   ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 13:30     ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:25       ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 14:37         ` alin.s
2010-02-12 14:53         ` alin.s
2010-02-12 15:11           ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 15:31             ` David Kastrup
2010-02-12 15:55               ` Jan Djärv
2010-02-12 16:53               ` alin.s
2010-02-12 18:55                 ` David Kastrup
2010-02-14 19:13                   ` alin.s
2010-02-17 13:14                     ` Chong Yidong
2010-02-23  0:45                       ` Giuseppe Scrivano
2010-02-23  3:01                         ` David Reitter
2010-02-23  3:34                           ` Tom Tromey
2010-02-23 14:31                         ` Richard Stallman
2010-02-14 19:25                   ` alin.s
2010-02-16 16:40                 ` Davis Herring
2010-02-16 19:20                   ` grischka
2010-02-16 19:55                     ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-02-17 13:56                       ` alin.s
2010-02-16 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2010-02-16 20:56                       ` grischka
2010-02-17  4:20                         ` Eli Zaretskii

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