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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: The copyright issue
Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2010 09:50:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87aaou6h43.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 4C6035BA.3030901@online.de

Andreas Röhler <andreas.roehler@online.de> writes:

> Am 09.08.2010 18:16, schrieb David Kastrup:
>> But Tauss was not just informing himself about a machinery, he was
>> actively participating in it and feeding it.
>
> Really? Don't believe that. He states different.

I recommend that you inform yourself better.

His own press declaration (so something which he prepared voluntarily
without time pressure and with the intent of giving his own view as a
public defense) in
<URL:http://www.welt.de/politik/article3359388/Tauss-Erklaerung-im-Wortlaut.html>
states:

    Es gibt heute nach meiner Erfahrung nur noch geschlossene
    Benutzergruppen und eine entsprechende Vorsicht. Sie kommen dem
    überhaupt auch nur nahe, wenn Sie szenetypisch auftreten und selbst
    „Material“, sozusagen als Eintrittskarte, anzubieten haben. „Ich
    schicke Dir und Du schickst mir - so sind wir beide
    „abgesichert“. Das begründet, warum ich das wenige selbst erhaltene
    kinderpornographische Material aufbewahrt habe.

He also paid money for that kind of material and thus kept the machinery
going:

    Da ich wenig für ihn interessantes Tauschmaterial hatte, wollte er
    einschlägiges Material nur gegen Zahlung von 100 € liefern. Ich
    zahlte und erhielt mehrere Datenträger,

[...]

    Daher zahlte ich weitere 100 Euro, um die in Aussicht gestellten
    Kontakte zu bekommen. Als weitere Informationen aber ausblieben und
    „Sascha“ plötzlich behauptete, von mir kein Geld bekommen zu haben,
    verfolgte ich den Kontakt nicht weiter.

All in all he keeps the incriminating material around because he
considers it necessary for the investigation which he claims he decided
to abort after a short duration.  And that is his own press release.

So I really recommend that you adjust your hero worship at least down to
the level of his own representation and words.  And most importantly,
take it elsewhere.  It has nothing, I repeat, nothing to do on the Emacs
developer list.  And discussions about the GPL and GNU policies are at
best marginally on-topic on this list, anyway, when we are talking about
the technical consequences and actual work of keeping Emacs in line with
the GNU maintenance policies.

-- 
David Kastrup




  reply	other threads:[~2010-08-10  7:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 72+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-08-05  9:12 The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Uday S Reddy
2010-08-05 12:15 ` The copyright issue Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-05 16:23 ` Randal L. Schwartz
2010-08-05 18:51   ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-06  2:48     ` Miles Bader
2010-08-06 13:05       ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-09 17:19       ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-09 22:53         ` Miles Bader
2010-08-09 23:19           ` Dan Nicolaescu
2010-08-06 10:34     ` Adrian Robert
2010-08-05 16:40 ` David Kastrup
2010-08-06  8:12 ` The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Richard Stallman
2010-08-06  9:39   ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-06 15:36     ` Fren Zeee
2010-08-06 16:45       ` Bug on calendar (was: The copyright issue) Óscar Fuentes
2010-08-07  3:57     ` The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-07  4:04     ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-06  8:37 ` Stuart Hacking
2010-08-06 10:43   ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-06 11:16     ` The copyright issue David Kastrup
2010-08-06 11:42       ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-06 15:23         ` David Kastrup
2010-08-06 11:25     ` The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Deniz Dogan
2010-08-06 12:01       ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-13 15:52         ` The copyright issue Walter Alejandro Iglesias
2010-08-13 23:33           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-14  2:35             ` Walter Alejandro Iglesias
2010-08-14  8:03               ` David Kastrup
2010-08-14 10:01                 ` Walter Alejandro Iglesias
2010-08-14 10:12                   ` David Kastrup
2010-08-14 10:58                     ` Walter Alejandro Iglesias
2010-08-14 16:30                       ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-16  5:59                         ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-16  7:07                           ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2010-08-16 18:22                             ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-16  8:43                           ` Walter Alejandro Iglesias
2010-08-06 17:32       ` Bastien
2010-08-08 16:31     ` The copyright issue (Was: Key bindings proposal) Bernardo Barros
2010-08-09 10:00       ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-09 10:15         ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-09 13:50           ` The copyright issue David Kastrup
2010-08-09 15:30             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-09 16:58             ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-09 22:49               ` Miles Bader
2010-08-09 23:57                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-10  1:06                   ` Miles Bader
2010-08-10  2:41                     ` Juanma Barranquero
2010-08-10  7:53                 ` David Kastrup
2010-08-06 13:11 ` Stefan Monnier
2010-08-06 16:39   ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-07  7:33     ` David Kastrup
2010-08-07 19:09     ` rogers-emacs
2010-08-07 20:31       ` Uday S Reddy
2010-08-07 23:52         ` rogers-emacs
2010-08-09  6:40           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-09  8:28             ` David Kastrup
2010-08-09  9:21               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-10 13:58                 ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-11  4:02                   ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2010-08-12  1:07                     ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-09 10:01           ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-09 11:42             ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-09 13:06               ` David Kastrup
2010-08-09 14:28                 ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-09 16:16                   ` David Kastrup
2010-08-09 17:07                     ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-10  7:50                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2010-08-10  8:28                         ` Andreas Röhler
2010-08-09 20:41                     ` Fren Zeee
2010-08-10  4:44               ` Richard Stallman
2010-08-10  8:04                 ` David Kastrup
2010-08-10  9:04                   ` Andreas Röhler

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