From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Miles Bader Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Adding a menu item for htmlfontify-buffer to File menu Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:51:19 +0900 Message-ID: <87aalakux4.fsf@catnip.gol.com> References: <20101112.230457.419777345042583664.yamato@redhat.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1289865756 19195 80.91.229.12 (16 Nov 2010 00:02:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 16 Nov 2010 00:02:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier , Masatake YAMATO To: "Andrew W. Nosenko" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 16 01:02:30 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PI90I-0003GZ-D1 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:02:30 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:41364 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PI8pf-0003jG-5w for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:31 -0500 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=43028 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1PI8pa-0003iz-Nq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:27 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PI8pY-0003L7-B0 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:26 -0500 Original-Received: from smtp12.dentaku.gol.com ([203.216.5.74]:43381) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1PI8pY-0003Kw-2r; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 18:51:24 -0500 Original-Received: from 123.230.98.87.eo.eaccess.ne.jp ([123.230.98.87] helo=catnip.gol.com) by smtp12.dentaku.gol.com with esmtpa (Dentaku) id 1PI8pU-0006Qp-F2; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:51:20 +0900 Original-Received: by catnip.gol.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B031EDF91; Tue, 16 Nov 2010 08:51:19 +0900 (JST) System-Type: x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu In-Reply-To: (Andrew W. Nosenko's message of "Tue, 16 Nov 2010 01:36:59 +0200") Original-Lines: 35 X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV GOL (outbound) X-Abuse-Complaints: abuse@gol.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:132683 Archived-At: "Andrew W. Nosenko" writes: >> Maybe that Print subsection should be put into its own submenu, or maybe >> we should have just "print buffer" and "print region" and then prompt >> the user about how she wants to print (just print, to ps, to b&w ps, to >> html, younameit). > > Excuse me, but convert to html is not a print. It's... hmm... convert :-) > Convert to html, convert to postscript, convert to pdf... Or export, > if you prefer that name. But not a print. > May be in English the word "print" has some other additional sense, It depends on what exactly it's doing... "Printing" sort of means making a particular presentation form of the document (usually paginated, often with headers/footers, etc). This is opposed to, for instance, exporting its contents in a way that maintains semantics to some degree etc. So for instance, "print to a file" is a different operation from "save to a file". "Print to html", likewise, would mean to write an html-encoded version of the presentation-form of the document (which is not usually useful as a way of actually saving the document's contents), and typically would be offered alongside "Print to Postscript/PDF/whatever". There might _also_ be an "Export to html" operation for modes that support it; e.g., in an XML-mode of some sort, exporting to html might make sense... -Miles --=20 =E3=80=8C=E3=81=99=E3=81=A3=E3=81=94=E3=81=84=E3=80=8D=E3=81=A8=E5=91=9F=E3= =81=84=E3=81=A6=E3=82=8B=E3=80=82=E3=80=8C=E3=81=B8=E3=82=93=E3=81=A6=E3=81= =93=E3=81=AA=E3=82=82=E3=82=93=E3=81=B0=E3=81=A3=E3=81=8B=E3=82=8A=E3=80=8D =E3=80=8C=E3=81=9D=E3=82=93=E3=81=AA=E3=81=AB=E3=81=B8=E3=82=93=E3=81=A6=E3= =81=93=EF=BC=9F=E3=80=8D =E3=80=8C=E3=81=B8=E3=82=93=E3=81=A6=E3=81=93=E3=81=B8=E3=82=93=E3=81=A6=E3= =81=93=E3=80=8D =E3=81=9D=E3=81=86=E8=A8=80=E3=82=8F=E3=82=8C=E3=82=8B=E3=81=A8=E8=A6=8B=E3= =81=9F=E3=81=8F=E3=81=AA=E3=81=A3=E3=81=A6=E3=81=97=E3=81=BE=E3=81=86=E3=80= =82