From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tassilo Horn Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Making it easier to enable dired-x Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:03:12 +0100 Message-ID: <87aags6bsf.fsf@member.fsf.org> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300439624 19284 80.91.229.12 (18 Mar 2011 09:13:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 09:13:44 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Deniz Dogan , Emacs-Devel devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Mar 18 10:13:40 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0VkZ-00084i-TU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:13:40 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:49598 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0Vac-0000fJ-0W for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:03:22 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=58358 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q0VaX-0000eg-9I for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:03:18 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0VaV-0000Qs-0B for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:03:16 -0400 Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([141.26.64.15]:5277) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q0VaU-0000QL-RZ; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 05:03:14 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E83F7815EC8; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:03:13 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from deliver.uni-koblenz.de ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (deliver.uni-koblenz.de [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 10911-06-2; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:03:13 +0100 (CET) X-CHKRCPT: Envelopesender noch tassilo@member.fsf.org Original-Received: from thinkpad (tsdh.uni-koblenz.de [141.26.67.142]) by deliver.uni-koblenz.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDC997815EAF; Fri, 18 Mar 2011 10:03:12 +0100 (CET) In-Reply-To: (Stefan Monnier's message of "Thu, 17 Mar 2011 22:24:15 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.110016 (No Gnus v0.16) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at uni-koblenz.de X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-Received-From: 141.26.64.15 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137393 Archived-At: Stefan Monnier writes: Hi! >> Eg dired-filename-at-point is not massively different to ffap and >> thing-at-pt, `dired-filename-at-point' returns the expanded file name in a dired buffer. (thing-at-point 'filename) returns only the last part. So the former is clearly useful when writing code operating it dired buffers. >> stuff like "hands-off-my-x-keys" seems clunky, dired-x's local >> variables are now replaced by dir-locals, there's 50 lines and 3 >> commands dedicated just to deleting TeX and patch temp files, etc. Yes, for those, I agree. >> Plus it has its own manual, which is ~ 80% of the length of >> dired.texi, which would have to be merged in somehow. > > I tend to agree. I would welcome adding the remaining useful > functionality of dired-x into dired and then making dired-x obsolete. >From dired-aux, I think the subdir stuff is really useful. >From dired-x, I frequently use `dired-jump' and `dired-omit-mode'. Bye, Tassilo