From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Chong Yidong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: url library and GnuTLS, and Emacs-issued certificates Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:20:57 -0400 Message-ID: <87aagdmjqu.fsf@stupidchicken.com> References: <87mxkojpk4.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbawtbq7.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <878vw8hznm.fsf_-_@lifelogs.com> <87ei5xsvl6.fsf@lifelogs.com> <87hbatofix.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87ei5wpbks.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <87lj01wj8o.fsf@stupidchicken.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1301451701 22202 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2011 02:21:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2011 02:21:41 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Mar 30 04:21:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4l2D-0006Yk-R7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 30 Mar 2011 04:21:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:38905 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4l25-0001US-MI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:17 -0400 Original-Received: from [140.186.70.92] (port=48564 helo=eggs.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Q4l1z-0001UN-78 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:13 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4l1u-0004jO-4o for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:10 -0400 Original-Received: from vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu ([130.132.50.147]:59734) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Q4l1u-0004jG-2j for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:06 -0400 Original-Received: from furball (dhcp128036014198.central.yale.edu [128.36.14.198]) (authenticated bits=0) by vm-emlprdomr-06.its.yale.edu (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id p2U2Kxlp022047 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:21:02 -0400 Original-Received: by furball (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0DE7A16039F; Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:20:57 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen's message of "Tue, 29 Mar 2011 22:54:11 +0200") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.71 on 130.132.50.147 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-Received-From: 130.132.50.147 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:137886 Archived-At: Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen writes: > My point is that `try-starttls' is somewhat meaningless, since you have > to give all the additional parameters to get a STARTTLS upgrade. If you > don't, you get a non-upgraded connection even if you do say > `try-starttls'. > > That, and the nnimap incompatibility issue (sorry for not looking at the > nntp.el code first) just makes me feel that `try-starttls' isn't the > most useful choice. OK, I shan't argue the point. I'll commit the change bringing the default back to `network', and then proceed to merge proto-stream.el into open-network-stream.