From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Burton Samograd Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: What about putting CC Mode 5.32 into Emacs? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:34:09 -0600 Message-ID: <87aa96ql5a.fsf@interalia.com> References: <20111008131416.GE2783@acm.acm> <87d3e7gqbl.fsf@stupidchicken.com> <874nzfsetz.fsf@interalia.com> <20111011191637.GA3083@acm.acm> <87ehyj5afo.fsf@maru.md5i.com> <87ty7eqoqr.fsf@interalia.com> <87aa965jlx.fsf@maru.md5i.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1318487901 3395 80.91.229.12 (13 Oct 2011 06:38:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 06:38:21 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Alan Mackenzie , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Michael Welsh Duggan" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Oct 13 08:38:17 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([140.186.70.17]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1REEvp-0007in-2G for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 08:38:17 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33650 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1REEvo-0006wD-Im for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:38:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.92]:47445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE0pZ-0008SI-Nm for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:34:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE0pY-00024m-Bs for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:34:53 -0400 Original-Received: from [209.89.22.115] (port=57971 helo=CgyExchg.Interalia.ca) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1RE0pY-00024K-04 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:34:52 -0400 Original-Received: from bsamograd-ubuntu ([10.0.0.170]) by CgyExchg.Interalia.ca with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Wed, 12 Oct 2011 09:34:47 -0600 In-Reply-To: <87aa965jlx.fsf@maru.md5i.com> (Michael Welsh Duggan's message of "Wed, 12 Oct 2011 11:12:58 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Oct 2011 15:34:47.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[79213940:01CC88F4] X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1+ X-Received-From: 209.89.22.115 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 02:38:15 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:145103 Archived-At: "Michael Welsh Duggan" writes: >> I don't want to complain without offering a solution, but in the 15+ >> years I've been using emacs I have *never* had a problem with C code >> indentation and have grown to rely on it to help me find syntax errors >> in my code. Why it has unreliable is beyond me when it's worked so well >> for so long...I hope this wasn't just change for the sake of change. > > Definitely not. I don't recall all the performance problems the caching > code was added to support, but they were very real, and there were a > fair number of complaints because of them. I applaud the work Alan has > done to attempt to improve cc-mode, although I do worry about the > complexity of the current system. Which is unfortuate as *I* have never seen or had a problem with the previous CC modes... Again, this is open source and if I really wanted I could roll back in my own version, if I could find it. CC mode was one of those things I've always taken for granted since it "just worked". -- Burton Samograd