From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [SPAM] Re: Rectangular regions Date: Sat, 02 Nov 2013 20:00:13 +0900 Message-ID: <87a9hnrruq.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <52707D17.6010801@dancol.org> <8338niefba.fsf@gnu.org> <87a9hq8h7p.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> <29a14514-03d2-42ba-88c1-1bbac26f045a@default> <87iowbs4a9.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y557kyoj.fsf@gmail.com> <87bo23rut5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <5274CE7F.9030906@poczta.onet.pl> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1383390036 30940 80.91.229.3 (2 Nov 2013 11:00:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2013 11:00:36 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Jarek Czekalski Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 02 12:00:40 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VcYwZ-0006Mo-99 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 12:00:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41475 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcYwY-0006wk-K2 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:00:38 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38453) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcYwN-0006vW-4y for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:00:34 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcYwF-0006Rc-RT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:00:27 -0400 Original-Received: from mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.224]:44405) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VcYwF-0006QO-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 02 Nov 2013 07:00:19 -0400 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) by mgmt2.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCA69709A3; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:00:13 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E357E1A3507; Sat, 2 Nov 2013 20:00:13 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: <5274CE7F.9030906@poczta.onet.pl> X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" 182d01410b8d XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.224 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164860 Archived-At: Jarek Czekalski writes: > W dniu 11/02/2013 10:56 AM, Stephen J. Turnbull pisze: > > (see that > > concurrent thread on Emacsspeak-friendly Emacsen for why regions beat > > rectangles). > > Link please, this is not googleable. Rather than make you search for something that isn't actually there, I'll explain. The point is that Emacsspeak is an inherently linear medium, which nevertheless makes full use of the capabilities of Emacs. While I'm sure people with more or less impaired sight are quite capable of using rectangles in Emacs, this indicates to me that linear regions are a more fundamental entity in Emacs. The reason for mentioning an Emacsspeak thread in this context is that in that thread Stefan and others have expressed strong support for ensuring that Emacs can support Emacsspeak well, which is indirect support for my claim. Very indirect,if you wish. :-)