From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:37:59 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <3096922F-ACE6-4D70-BDB9-F6110FF8C62A@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389123507 7693 80.91.229.3 (7 Jan 2014 19:38:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 19:38:27 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jan 07 20:38:33 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTw-00086r-CC for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:38:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42486 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTw-0004BF-0f for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:38:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:57061) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTm-0004At-GE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:38:29 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTf-0003fK-0w for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:38:22 -0500 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:47763) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTe-0003eH-RJ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 14:38:14 -0500 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0cTd-0007PG-Pl for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:38:13 +0100 Original-Received: from x2f4af83.dyn.telefonica.de ([2.244.175.131]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:38:13 +0100 Original-Received: from dak by x2f4af83.dyn.telefonica.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:38:13 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 11 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: x2f4af83.dyn.telefonica.de X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+KZxvQNk4qSl9fGVKYOZkCk2Vr0= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167667 Archived-At: Joel Mccracken writes: > Beyond trying to remember, using current terminology is sends the > message that Emacs is old, stubborn, and crufty, which is a problem > when trying to introduce new users to Emacs. Emacs _is_ one of the old great ones. You are trying to make Gandalf more popular by plucking his nose hairs. -- David Kastrup