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From: Ted Zlatanov <tzz@lifelogs.com>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5
Date: Tue, 04 Feb 2014 15:11:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a9e6eiyu.fsf@lifelogs.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 52F139D3.3030401@cs.ucla.edu

On Tue, 04 Feb 2014 11:04:51 -0800 Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> wrote: 

PE> On 02/04/2014 10:32 AM, Ted Zlatanov wrote:
PE> Using the GnuTLS API would remove Stefan's objection to the change,
PE> no? Emacs already depends on the GnuTLS API.
>> 
>> No, sadly, because it's new C glue code and his goal is to remove such.

PE> As I understand it his objection is to adding dependencies on new
PE> libraries, not to more-effectively using libraries that Emacs already
PE> depends on.  For example, he didn't object to adding
PE> internal-default-process-filter or to bool-vector-count-population,
PE> even though these functions both involved new C glue code.

Well, here's the rejection letter:
http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.devel/163980

As I said then, feel free to add your vote of support.  So far Lars and
I are the only ones asking for encryption that doesn't require calling
out to external binaries like GnuPG.  I followed up to Lars specifically
so I could explain that I thought (after a few months of letting things
rest) that loose coupling of *encryption* features specifically was a
bad idea.  Compared to, say, XML parsing, encryption is much less of a
feature and more of an integral facility.

I respect and understand Stefan's opinion and have not argued about the
FFI in general (in fact I was planning to work on it; it's a neat
feature), but I think Lars makes good points against FFI from practical
experience, and I think my point above is worth considering as well.

Ted




  reply	other threads:[~2014-02-04 20:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-02-03 22:36 Wherein I argue for the inclusion of libnettle in Emacs 24.5 Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-04  3:21 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-04 13:07   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 14:44     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-04 18:36       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:44   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  2:28     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-05  2:39       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  7:00       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:13         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-05 13:41           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05 15:50             ` andres.ramirez
2014-02-05 17:00             ` chad
2014-02-05 18:55               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06  5:03             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 11:49               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 13:03                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-02-06 14:28                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-06 15:05                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-06 15:54                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  2:06                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  6:51                       ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07  7:15                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07  8:53                           ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 10:00                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 10:49                               ` David Kastrup
2014-02-07 20:43                                 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 21:42                                   ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07 22:23                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2014-02-07 15:30                               ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-07  9:07                     ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-07 11:54                       ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-08  8:11                         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-08 16:59                           ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-05  8:19         ` Daiki Ueno
2014-02-04 13:10 ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 16:27   ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 18:32     ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 19:04       ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 20:11         ` Ted Zlatanov [this message]
2014-02-04 21:46           ` Paul Eggert
2014-02-04 22:44             ` Ted Zlatanov
2014-02-04 22:36           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2014-02-05  5:11             ` Daiki Ueno

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