From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Have you all gone crazy? Was: On being web-friendly and why info must die Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 23:27:08 +0900 Message-ID: <87a92a4hc3.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> References: <87388bnzha.fsf@newcastle.ac.uk> <87k31mdbhe.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0qiv45.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87h9wqd3i5.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87fvc8kdsp.fsf@gnu.org> <6e11cd85-09a0-4b7a-baa2-0c810bdebbce@default> <871tnsg0w7.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <834msoqrsg.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31ki3tc.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <21657.38692.813089.642641@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87tx0j4tqo.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419604047 18958 80.91.229.3 (26 Dec 2014 14:27:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2014 14:27:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 26 15:27:20 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4VrL-0003sp-HO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 15:27:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53604 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4VrK-0006n3-Pk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:27:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36882) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4VrG-0006mr-NK for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:27:15 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4VrD-00048n-DR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:27:14 -0500 Original-Received: from shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp ([130.158.97.161]:59000) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y4VrD-00048M-4B; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 09:27:11 -0500 Original-Received: from uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp [130.158.99.156]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by shako.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7427A1C386B; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 23:27:08 +0900 (JST) Original-Received: by uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5070311F321; Fri, 26 Dec 2014 23:27:08 +0900 (JST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: VM undefined under 21.5 (beta34) "kale" acf1c26e3019 XEmacs Lucid (x86_64-unknown-linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 130.158.97.161 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180686 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > You are not being constructive, just spreading negativity. I'm hardly negative about the Emacs manuals or their indexes. Both are very good IMO, despite some critics' claims. But by that very token, they're going to require either inordinate effort or great creativity to improve very much. I don't think specific effort is justified; the folks who have kaizenned them into their current excellence will continue to improve them (and cooperating modules such as completion) when the occasion arises, as has happened in this thread. > Please take it away from here. OK. Sayonara