From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Nic Ferrier Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: HTML-Info design Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:01:29 +0000 Message-ID: <87a9277292.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> References: <83y4pzptpx.fsf@gnu.org> <871tnr1gqo.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83bnmvowdb.fsf@gnu.org> <83ppbanqhe.fsf@gnu.org> <87vbl2xigp.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83ioh2nlow.fsf@gnu.org> <87sig6xech.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <83fvc5ni0u.fsf@gnu.org> <87k31fwwyv.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87bnmq9ibf.fsf@ferrier.me.uk> <87lhlrx5fc.fsf@building.gnus.org> <878uhrcr5l.fsf@building.gnus.org> <871tnjcqyy.fsf@building.gnus.org> <54A09629.3050601@cs.ucla.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1419811308 16621 80.91.229.3 (29 Dec 2014 00:01:48 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:01:48 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: eggert@cs.ucla.edu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 29 01:01:38 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NmD-0007uY-NM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:01:37 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59696 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NmD-0003mi-1U for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:01:37 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:37530) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5NmA-0003mb-J3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:01:35 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Nm7-000260-Cy for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:01:34 -0500 Original-Received: from static.17.66.46.78.clients.your-server.de ([78.46.66.17]:48403 helo=po1.ferrier.me.uk) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Y5Nm7-00025q-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 28 Dec 2014 19:01:31 -0500 Original-Received: from nicferrier-dell-xps (140.35.155.90.in-addr.arpa [90.155.35.140]) by po1.ferrier.me.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id EF0A6AC068B; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 01:22:48 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from nicferrier-XPS13-9333 (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nicferrier-dell-xps (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0F02608A5; Mon, 29 Dec 2014 00:01:29 +0000 (GMT) In-Reply-To: <54A09629.3050601@cs.ucla.edu> (eggert@cs.ucla.edu's message of "Sun, 28 Dec 2014 15:45:45 -0800") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 3.x X-Received-From: 78.46.66.17 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:180783 Archived-At: eggert@cs.ucla.edu writes: > In contrast, the same documentation on Icecat (see 2nd attachment) is > easier to read and for a newbie to navigate through. There's only one > set of buttons, the text fits the window, the font (though still > pretty large) is not the enormous size that Emacs uses, and the text > is nicely reformatted to fit the window. (One other nicety: some > unnecessary and distracting quotes are omitted.) Overall there's > about 50% more useful information in the same screen space, and it's > more readable despite the smaller font size. This is a significantly > better experience. The eww version looks much less nice. Particularly neither eww nor info re-flow the text when the window size changes. Or even if a new frame is created for the buffer. One very nice thing about browsers is that they conventionally let you open a link in a new window (in Emacs parlance, a frame). That is very useful when you are reading documentation. Emacs buffer/windows are probably as good but I'd like the text to re-flow when that happened. Perhaps that can be easily hacked together. Nic