From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eric Abrahamsen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Documentation of nnoo.el Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 20:15:26 +0800 Message-ID: <87a8v16081.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> References: <87615q88kh.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87k2u66nvx.fsf@ericabrahamsen.net> <87vbdphbg5.fsf@gmx.us> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1436703356 22789 80.91.229.3 (12 Jul 2015 12:15:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2015 12:15:56 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 12 14:15:48 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAd-0001PA-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:15:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50603 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAc-0007TP-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:15:46 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52887) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAX-0007T2-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:15:42 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAR-0003Gp-QX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:15:41 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:56748) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAR-0003Gi-Gz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 08:15:35 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZEGAO-0001LY-Rx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:15:33 +0200 Original-Received: from 222.128.167.57 ([222.128.167.57]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:15:32 +0200 Original-Received: from eric by 222.128.167.57 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 12 Jul 2015 14:15:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Original-Lines: 19 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 222.128.167.57 User-Agent: Gnus/5.130014 (Ma Gnus v0.14) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:Gef18SBTyfb/jSiHolERL+6vBJ8= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:187816 Archived-At: Rasmus writes: > Eric Abrahamsen writes: > >> 3. Easier hackage/extensibility. Contributors currently have very hard >> time figuring out how everything works; this would help. Subclassing >> would also make it much easier for people to write new backends, or >> modify existing ones. > > It's extremely hard to write patches for Gnus 'cause it's so hard to > figure out what is going on. > > And dev. documentation is/docstrings are not the best, though user > documentation is pretty awesome. Which isn't to say that an EIEIO rewrite would magically result in better documentation, but if the code were simplified at the same time that a general overhaul were undertaken... it would make things more comprehensible.