From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] master 9ce1d38: Use curved quotes in core elisp diagnostics Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:33:28 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8tdjid3.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <41A4C5AF-6F4B-4927-8C42-E7E6048716E1@gmail.com> <877fohbf5g.fsf@gmail.com> <55DE96DE.80400@cs.ucla.edu> <20150827.070815.111305997.wl@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1440660834 31984 80.91.229.3 (27 Aug 2015 07:33:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Werner LEMBERG Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 27 09:33:45 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgr-0007MK-Hh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:33:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgq-0007XR-GP for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:33:40 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:36347) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgm-0007WM-B7 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:33:37 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgl-0002t8-CO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:33:36 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:49865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgg-0002px-0D; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:33:30 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:35451 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1ZUrgf-0000SU-EW; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 03:33:29 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E03C2DF4B9; Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:33:28 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <20150827.070815.111305997.wl@gnu.org> (Werner LEMBERG's message of "Thu, 27 Aug 2015 07:08:15 +0200 (CEST)") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:189219 Archived-At: Werner LEMBERG writes: >> Classical Latin needs some non-ASCII characters; see, for example: >> >> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:I_littera_in_manuscripto.jpg >> >> which I'm attaching for convenience. > > Interesting. However, this is not what you can see on the common > all-uppercase inscriptions (cf. Capitalis and Capitalis monumentalis). > So it seems that ASCII is *sufficient* to write correct Latin. Yes and no. Antique Latin is written differently these days, just like Antique Greek (which gradually adopted a three-accent system into Alexandrian papyri in the 2nd century AD even though the system had already been invented in the Hellenistic period in the 3rd century BC by Aristophanes in Byzantium). Writing correct Antique Greek _requires_ the use of the 3-accent system even though nobody in Antique Greece ever used it. -- David Kastrup