From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mathieu Lirzin Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: New maintainer Date: Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:50:07 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8s0b28g.fsf@openmailbox.org> References: <560CCEBA.9080607@online.de> <874miapdhs.fsf@openmailbox.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1443873057 27149 80.91.229.3 (3 Oct 2015 11:50:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 11:50:57 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 03 13:50:50 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiLKy-0001on-9T for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 13:50:48 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiLKx-00083k-Fz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:50:47 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50102) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiLKd-00083a-3A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:50:27 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiLKY-0000JQ-W9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:50:26 -0400 Original-Received: from smtp14.openmailbox.org ([62.4.1.48]:50406) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZiLKY-0000J2-NH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:50:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail2.openmailbox.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 2A9742AC141B; Sat, 3 Oct 2015 13:50:21 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1443873020; bh=WSJIqjgPWAxLWjOD4wnac7+73AySu2TOuEE/vEhC0xg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=Dlz0j8E51C1EayeUuJ/zT2zNk9yyJmGNBiJ9QbqKRhOVlhtsHv1TJx+7k2nQPFs/I kYU77izGk4sQK1GYNtt+IwHpEy+r6tMoj2r89YqQm+LpAGFfmeIEJzkZ6pVqbP4aoE 5mIw77SQ5gscijnq1f/rxirrAnd8OLQpbUN0SrPc= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=openmailbox.org; s=openmailbox; t=1443873008; bh=WSJIqjgPWAxLWjOD4wnac7+73AySu2TOuEE/vEhC0xg=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=umiKnMi99IQlsZsuqyc4qZil71SYTB3G8HzIAIrqOw1ENZfN3LdT5HikaobFt1lmi yydLQoadUVt3fM+hW+NW6ceA7ZxhxtUfcjWdYgObuFpI84R9XQdieNzvdCTnAjPjKR e+y+FXwp2wDD51PIT7CGOhvA9Zt4r9mu86JVVJqY= In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Fri, 02 Oct 2015 21:36:28 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.5 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 62.4.1.48 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:190781 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > The GNU Emacs maintainer's responsibility is to take charge of Emacs > on behalf of the GNU Project, and produce the best possible GNU Emacs > -- which means, the one that advances our aim the most. ^^^ > Mostly, making Emacs better is a matter of practical improvements, but > there are some exceptions. The maintainer's responsibility includes > some tasks to support the GPL, both practically and politically. It > includes getting copyright papers from contributors so we can enforce ^^ > the GPL. It includes making sure dynamic loading resists GPL > violation. It includes putting some GNU Project political statements > into Emacs. It includes making sure nothing in Emacs disagrees with > them. An Emacs maintainer has to be willing to undertake this part of > the responsibility as well as the politically neutral bulk of the > responsibility. > > The maintainer's job does not include personal political statements. > Maintainers don't have to say they agree with the GNU Project's > political positions, they just have to implement them wholeheartedly. > > However, a maintainer shouldn't publicly oppose our positions. ^^^ My overall feeling of your description of the Emacs maintainer's role is that it consists of practical improvements with political obligations, and no vocal disagreement with =E2=80=9Cus=E2=80=9D. This gives me the imp= ression that you consider GNU package maintainers as separate from the GNU project itself. But who is that =E2=80=9CWe=E2=80=9D if it doesn't include the mai= ntainers? -- Mathieu Lirzin