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From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: New maintainer
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 2015 09:43:48 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a8rv86ob.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m28u7furb3.fsf@newartisans.com> (John Wiegley's message of "Tue,  06 Oct 2015 23:43:56 -0700")

John Wiegley <johnw@newartisans.com> writes:

> I can't help but think that unless the FSF has more to offer than its
> ideals, its technical decisions are going to render it obsolete.

The FSF never had substantially more to offer than its ideals.  All the
rest has been provided by volunteers and donations.  While Richard has
thrown a substantial amount of his own work and money and time into it
at the start, in the overall scheme that's not much more than a
catalyst.

> Progress waits for no man, and the world is changing more and more
> rapidly. There is a reason Clang is eating GCC's lunch: because the
> needs of a larger community demand a better free compiler.

The FSF has no control over the direction of Clang, technical or with
regard to licensing.  A whole lot of software is "eating GNU's lunch" in
a number of technical categories.  GNU started out with everybody
"eating its lunch".  The mission of the GNU project is to provide a
coherent whole with freedoms that cannot be subverted.

Apple's XCode environment is based on a free compiler, Clang, but is
licensed in a way where you may not run it on anything but Apple
computers.  _That's_ how you really eat the lunch of free software.
Having Emacs integrate with XCode for developing code in a manner that
cannot be done with the GNU system would be self-defeating.

It's the point of the GPL to be hard to subvert against the cause of
free software.  But the GPL is not a philosophical authority but a legal
tool.  Software licensed under it can be used according to our goals or
against them.  Where the only uses are weakening our cause, there is no
point in being the front-runner.  Everybody may fork Emacs (or just
provide his own packages) who wants to work on goals not helping the GNU
project, but there is no point in the core of Emacs relying on resources
and the blessing of the FSF to do so.

> Emacs is still a fantastic editor, but it's old and its age is
> showing. If we remain competitive, it could stay awesome for another
> 30 years; but if we avoid progress to further non-technical agendas, I
> think it will drive people AWAY from the GNU project, not bind them
> more tightly to it.

That argument is more than 30 years old, and many parts of the GNU
project have taken second place to other software a whole lot of the
time.  But the front leaders wither and die and get replaced by others.
GNU sticks around.  Emacs sticks around.  Its largest traditional
competitor is "vi" and it is factually gone, replaced by the most
popular free vi clone of the decade (currently vim).

Yes, we'll not end up in first place on technical merit lots of the time
because ending up in first place is not the first priority.  The first
priority is to provide a free cohesive system with essential parts
nominally and effectively under the GPL so that its use as a building
block will lead to more systems honoring and providing software freedom.

Taking custody of that may be a nuisance if you don't care or even
disagree.  But even though it's an essential part of the job, it should
not turn out a permanent distraction.  And if it does, one should try
finding a solution or compromise that manages to serve the conflicting
priorities better.

-- 
David Kastrup



  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-07  7:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 559+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-29  6:28 New maintainer Stefan Monnier
2015-09-29 15:26 ` Nicolas Petton
2015-09-30 20:34   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01  6:27   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 14:13     ` Aurélien Aptel
2015-10-01 16:02       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-01 17:14       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 18:35         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01 19:18           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 20:43             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 23:37             ` Barry Warsaw
2015-10-06  4:52               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  0:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2015-09-29 19:20 ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-09-29 21:46 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01  6:12   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-01 13:55     ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-01 14:44     ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-01 19:58       ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-01 20:46         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-01 21:18           ` Yoni Rabkin
2015-10-02  0:38             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02  0:44               ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  0:49                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02  1:00                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-02  1:05               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02  1:55                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03  1:37                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  7:20                   ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 18:25                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:04                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 19:26                       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:56                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 20:03                         ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 20:10                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 20:44                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 21:49                               ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-10-03 22:15                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  6:40                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04 14:13                                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03 22:34                               ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-03 22:53                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  0:30                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2015-10-03 20:44                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-03 21:03                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-03 21:43                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04 14:13                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 21:41                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 17:10                               ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:20                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 19:25                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-05 19:31                                     ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-05 19:45                                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-05 20:16                                         ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-05 20:37                                           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 20:48                                             ` David Engster
2015-10-05 21:04                                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 21:03                                             ` Jay Belanger
2015-10-06  7:34                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06  7:31                                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06 21:53                                             ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-06 22:15                                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06 22:59                                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-06 23:22                                                 ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-07 11:34                                                 ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-07 16:15                                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07 16:48                                                     ` Phillip Lord
2015-10-07 16:53                                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-07 17:26                                                     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-07 18:11                                                       ` David Kastrup
2015-10-08  4:34                                                         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-12 19:59                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 20:48                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-07  0:18                                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  6:43                                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07  7:43                                       ` David Kastrup [this message]
2015-10-07  8:42                                         ` joakim
2015-10-08 22:20                                       ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-09  0:14                                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-09  5:03                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-09  7:30                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-09 17:25                                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-09 18:52                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-09 19:06                                                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-11 20:51                                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-09  3:04                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-11  6:49                                         ` Tom
2015-10-11  7:13                                           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-11  7:45                                           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-05 17:32                               ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 17:05                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:03                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04  2:33                       ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04  6:56                         ` Tassilo Horn
2015-10-04 15:49                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 19:46                           ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04 21:18                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-04 21:34                             ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 22:28                               ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-04 22:47                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-04 23:20                                 ` David Kastrup
2015-10-04 23:55                                   ` Jens K. Loewe
2015-10-05  6:00                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05  6:15                                     ` David Kastrup
2015-10-05  6:56                                       ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 13:55                                         ` Michael Westbom
2015-10-05  6:59                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05  7:36                                         ` David Kastrup
2015-10-05  8:23                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 14:38                                             ` Michael Westbom
2015-10-05 17:12                                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:12                                       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05  5:24                                 ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-10-06 15:03                                   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:10                                 ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:07                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 19:13                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 17:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 21:21                     ` David Reitter
2015-10-05 22:21                       ` John Wiegley
2015-10-07 17:30                         ` David Reitter
2015-10-08  2:30                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-01 21:52           ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-01 22:08           ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-02  0:13           ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02  2:07             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2015-10-02  3:45               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03  3:37                 ` Christopher Allan Webber
2015-10-02  8:14               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-02 15:21                 ` Drew Adams
2015-10-02 11:16               ` Juanma Barranquero
2015-10-02 13:03                 ` Rasmus
2015-10-02 15:45               ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-02 17:02                 ` John Wiegley
2015-10-02 19:20                   ` Karl Fogel
2015-10-03  5:34                   ` Rustom Mody
2015-10-03 12:03                     ` Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-03 12:24                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-03 20:04                       ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-04  6:26                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-04  7:03                           ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-04  7:13                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06 21:58                               ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-07 15:27                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 16:47                                   ` Malk'Zameth
2015-10-07 18:17                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-07 18:42                                     ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-12 19:59                                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07 18:49                                   ` Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-07 19:15                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 17:05                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 14:13                         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  1:36           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03  8:04             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 11:40               ` Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-03 19:47               ` David Engster
2015-10-03 19:52                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 20:14                   ` David Engster
2015-10-03 20:27                     ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 11:50             ` Mathieu Lirzin
2015-10-04 14:11               ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-02  2:30         ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-01 23:26   ` Lennart Borgman
2015-10-02  2:24   ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-03 18:37     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2015-10-03 18:58       ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:08         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:12           ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:25             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:39               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-03 19:20           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 18:59       ` John Wiegley
     [not found]         ` <<83fv1r3gzp.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-03 19:10         ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 19:19           ` John Wiegley
     [not found]             ` <<83bncf3f9k.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-03 19:48             ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-03 20:04               ` John Wiegley
     [not found]                 ` <<5610E0BC.8090902@online.de>
2015-10-04  8:18                 ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-04  8:56                   ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                     ` <<E1Zj9Cu-0001Ph-5n@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-10-05 17:05                     ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-05 17:14                       ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                         ` <<m2bncd16lh.fsf@newartisans.com>
2015-10-05 19:02                         ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 19:32                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 19:38                             ` Daniel Colascione
2015-10-05 19:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 20:00                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-05 20:38                             ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 21:20                           ` Dmitry Gutov
     [not found]                             ` <<E1ZjcRM-000333-Eb@fencepost.gnu.org>
     [not found]                               ` <<loom.20151010T062303-9@post.gmane.org>
2015-10-05 22:12                             ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 22:24                               ` John Wiegley
2015-10-05 23:42                                 ` Artur Malabarba
2015-10-05 23:52                                   ` John Wiegley
2015-10-06  6:13                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  6:25                               ` Ricardo Wurmus
2015-10-06  7:39                               ` David Kastrup
2015-10-06  6:29                             ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  7:29                               ` Rasmus
2015-10-07  0:18                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10  4:33                               ` IDE Tom
2015-10-10  7:56                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]                                   ` <<5618C92A.3040207@yandex.ru>
2015-10-10  8:15                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  8:30                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10  8:59                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  9:40                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:14                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 10:34                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:50                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 11:03                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 14:15                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 14:25                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 17:52                                                       ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 10:21                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 10:25                                                           ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 10:29                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:16                                                               ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:22                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:37                                                                   ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:56                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 11:45                                                                       ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 11:47                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:55                                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 16:21                                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 16:58                                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 17:26                                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 17:39                                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 10:10                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 10:17                                                         ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 11:02                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 11:38                                                             ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 11:49                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 12:08                                                                 ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 12:27                                                                   ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-11 12:49                                                                     ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 16:00                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 15:25                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 18:47                                                                 ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-11 15:25                                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 22:06                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 11:05                                                             ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 11:29                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 12:37                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 13:08                                                                   ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-12 14:12                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 16:21                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 13:33                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 14:08                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-12 14:25                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 16:12                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 14:39                                                                 ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 14:49                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:02                                                                     ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 15:13                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 15:54                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 18:06                                                                 ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-14  2:32                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
     [not found]                                                           ` <<561A41CA.6060908@yandex.ru>
     [not found]                                                             ` <<83a8rpqvg1.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-11 18:10                                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-11 22:13                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 15:23                                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 22:10                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 20:53                                                         ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 21:40                                                           ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 20:01                                                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10 14:20                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 14:37                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 15:02                                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 15:35                                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 17:52                                                           ` IDE martin rudalics
2015-10-10 18:31                                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 18:46                                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:03                                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 19:11                                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:16                                                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:47                                                                       ` IDE David Kastrup
     [not found]                                                                     ` <<83lhbar0tn.fsf@gnu.org>
2015-10-10 20:15                                                                       ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-10 20:03                                                                   ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-11 20:52                                                                   ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-10 18:58                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 19:07                                                                 ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 19:14                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:09                                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 21:23                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10 22:04                                                                   ` IDE Daniel Colascione
2015-10-11  8:15                                                                   ` IDE Andreas Röhler
2015-10-12 18:12                                                                 ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-12 18:31                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12 18:47                                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-13 23:34                                                                       ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-14  7:33                                                                         ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-10 22:05                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-10 23:20                                                                 ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 11:53                                                                   ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 20:06                                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-10 23:26                                                               ` IDE raman
2015-10-11 20:49                                                         ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 13:18                                           ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 13:26                                             ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 13:34                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 13:41                                                 ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 14:05                                                   ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 14:18                                                     ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 13:59                                               ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 14:10                                                 ` IDE Jean-Christophe Helary
2015-10-11 14:10                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 16:04                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 17:05                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 17:15                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 17:32                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-12 19:59                                                     ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-11 18:55                                                   ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-11 18:12                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-12 11:46                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-12 14:40                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 14:55                                                 ` IDE Tom
2015-10-12 15:11                                                   ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 14:17                                                 ` IDE Nix
2015-10-24 14:25                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 16:29                                                     ` IDE Nix
2015-10-24 16:56                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:00                                                       ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:12                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:42                                                           ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 18:10                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 18:43                                                               ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-25 17:38                                                                 ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-10-24 17:00                                                     ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:10                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 17:32                                                         ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-26 18:28                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 20:04                                                             ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-26 20:18                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 20:27                                                                 ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 20:34                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 22:09                                                                     ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 22:44                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 23:06                                                                         ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 23:19                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-26 23:40                                                                             ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27  0:18                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27  1:33                                                                           ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-27  3:01                                                                             ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-27  3:49                                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27  4:02                                                                                 ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-27 17:50                                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:41                                                                                     ` IDE Nikolaus Rath
2015-10-28 16:09                                                                                       ` IDE Nix
2015-10-26 20:41                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-26 22:16                                                                     ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27  3:38                                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 12:24                                                                         ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-27 18:03                                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 18:38                                                                             ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-26 21:14                                                                 ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-27  3:33                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27 17:39                                                                     ` IDE Andreas Schwab
2015-10-27 18:35                                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-27  8:20                                                         ` IDE Marcus Harnisch
2015-10-24 17:02                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:11                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:15                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 17:20                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 18:15                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-24 18:59                                                               ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 19:07                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-27  8:21                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-27 17:58                                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-24 17:00                                                   ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-12 21:54                                               ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-13  0:12                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14  2:45                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-14 11:42                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14 12:14                                                     ` IDE Alexis
2015-10-14 13:53                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15  3:31                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  0:14                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  4:21                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15  5:07                                                         ` IDE Elias Mårtenson
2015-10-15  5:16                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 13:20                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 13:18                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 19:58                                                           ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-15 20:31                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16  7:39                                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 10:27                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 11:17                                                                 ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 11:42                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 16:47                                                                   ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-17  3:56                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 17:18                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-17 23:11                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 18:21                                                                           ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-18 21:35                                                                             ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 13:04                                                                               ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-20  0:45                                                                                 ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 12:37                                                                                   ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-21  0:44                                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 14:40                                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-21 16:24                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20 15:23                                                                                   ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-21  1:06                                                                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 14:52                                                                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-28  2:30                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 13:36                                                                                           ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-27 17:28                                                                                       ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-28 12:34                                                                                         ` IDE Filipp Gunbin
2015-10-28 15:57                                                                                           ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-28 19:20                                                                                             ` IDE Filipp Gunbin
2015-10-29  2:32                                                                                             ` IDE Richard Stallman
2015-11-01 17:59                                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-01 20:10                                                                                             ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-11-01 20:34                                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-01 17:49                                                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17  0:41                                                                   ` IDE Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-17  2:16                                                                   ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-18 22:38                                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17  2:10                                                               ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17  3:24                                                                 ` Is EDE only intended to be used with languages which /require/ a 'compile' step? [was: Re: IDE] Alexis
2015-10-17 14:09                                                                   ` Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22  8:46                                                                     ` Alexis
2015-10-22 18:25                                                                       ` Aaron Ecay
2015-10-10 16:48                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-11  4:38                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 15:08                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 15:23                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-11 15:34                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-11 21:55                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-11 17:37                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-12 15:18                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-13 22:29                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  3:16                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 12:57                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-16 10:00                                                       ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-16 13:06                                                         ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 13:05                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17  2:39                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17  3:06                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 12:45                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-17 14:09                                                               ` IDE Stephen Leake
2015-10-17 14:25                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 14:41                                                                 ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 14:44                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-19 11:51                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-20  0:56                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21  2:41                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-10  9:51                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:02                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 20:25                                           ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-13 13:02                                       ` IDE Lluís
2015-10-13 16:03                                         ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-13 16:28                                           ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-13 16:40                                             ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-14  3:16                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-14  6:04                                               ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-14  8:09                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-14 12:05                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15  3:40                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-15 13:08                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-15 21:03                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16  2:40                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-16 10:21                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-14 13:17                                                 ` IDE Stephen Leake
2015-10-14 13:36                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-14 10:47                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-16 22:58                                                 ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-17  7:58                                                   ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-17  8:39                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-17 16:12                                                       ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 16:28                                                         ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-17 16:38                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18  8:13                                                       ` IDE Steinar Bang
2015-10-17 12:00                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 13:21                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 15:26                                                         ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-17 20:19                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 22:03                                                             ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 22:07                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-17 22:28                                                                 ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-17 22:37                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18  9:08                                                                     ` IDE Przemysław Wojnowski
2015-10-18  9:42                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20  1:07                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21  0:23                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 11:56                                                             ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18 12:11                                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 16:34                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-18 17:12                                                                 ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18 17:28                                                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-20  1:25                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-18 18:17                                                                   ` IDE Achim Gratz
2015-10-18 18:28                                                                     ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 18:50                                                                       ` IDE Achim Gratz
2015-10-18 18:58                                                                         ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-18 20:42                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-20  1:03                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-20 11:28                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21  3:13                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21 10:54                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-21 22:52                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-21 23:57                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22  1:35                                                                     ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22 11:17                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-22 12:58                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-22 21:47                                                                           ` IDE Louis Höfler
2015-10-28  2:16                                                                           ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 11:39                                                                             ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-28 14:45                                                                               ` Universal tag structure, was: IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-28 14:54                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-11-03 11:54                                                                               ` IDE joakim
2015-10-29 11:12                                                                             ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 11:26                                                                               ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 11:37                                                                                 ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 12:38                                                                                   ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 12:56                                                                                     ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-29 13:13                                                                                       ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-29 22:35                                                                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-10-30  9:04                                                                                           ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-31  1:24                                                                                             ` IDE Xue Fuqiao
2015-10-31 11:40                                                                                               ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-11-02 11:50                                                                                                 ` IDE Eric Ludlam
2015-11-03 13:35                                                                                                   ` IDE Oleh Krehel
2015-10-23 11:33                                                                   ` IDE Evgeniy Dushistov
2015-10-23 14:55                                                                     ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-23 15:51                                                                       ` IDE Evgeniy Dushistov
2015-10-23 16:25                                                                         ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-18  5:23                                                     ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-18 16:55                                                       ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-18 17:29                                                         ` IDE John Wiegley
2015-10-25  7:43                                                       ` IDE Andreas Röhler
2015-10-14  3:01                                         ` IDE Eric Ludlam
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2015-10-24 17:37                                                         ` IDE Drew Adams
2015-10-24 17:47                                                           ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10  9:00                                   ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10  9:17                                     ` IDE Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-10  9:55                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:02                                       ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:17                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:29                                           ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:36                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:42                                               ` IDE David Engster
2015-10-10 10:23                                       ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 10:35                                         ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 10:47                                           ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 10:58                                             ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 11:20                                               ` IDE David Kastrup
2015-10-10 11:25                                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-10 12:44                                       ` IDE Óscar Fuentes
2015-10-11 22:23                               ` IDE John Yates
2015-10-12  2:45                                 ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-12  9:45                                   ` IDE John Yates
2015-10-12  9:53                                     ` IDE Daniel Colascione
2015-10-12 15:49                                     ` IDE Eli Zaretskii
2015-10-06  1:15                           ` New maintainer Paul Nathan
2015-10-06  4:30                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2015-10-06  6:36                               ` Andreas Röhler
2015-10-06  7:33                                 ` Rasmus
2015-10-09  3:03                             ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  0:18                           ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-04 14:13       ` Richard Stallman
2015-10-07  5:08   ` Bastien
2015-10-07  8:52   ` Travis Jeffery
2015-09-30  0:26 ` Xue Fuqiao

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