From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add shell-quasiquote. Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:30:11 +0200 Message-ID: <87a8rcetd8.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> References: <87si59wj42.fsf@T420.taylan> <878u6znii9.fsf@T420.taylan> <877fmjj9p6.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87zizfm2dq.fsf@T420.taylan> <871tcr7yvq.fsf@fastmail.com> <87mvvfm0bd.fsf@T420.taylan> <56250803.5080601@cs.ucla.edu> <87a8ren5ys.fsf@T420.taylan> <56259BB1.3070908@cs.ucla.edu> <878u6ykmvt.fsf@T420.taylan> <87h9llvo98.fsf@members.fsf.org> <5626622A.3090707@yandex.ru> <87zizdijbp.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267302.7050606@yandex.ru> <87io61igyu.fsf@T420.taylan> <56267CDF.6010201@yandex.ru> <87wpuhh15s.fsf@T420.taylan> <562683B9.1060305@yandex.ru> <83y4exe71v.fsf@gnu.org> <87y4ewoqbs.fsf@fastmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445401852 9305 80.91.229.3 (21 Oct 2015 04:30:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:30:52 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Random832 Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 21 06:30:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol30-00044v-KE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:30:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49251 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol2z-0004q1-LQ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:30:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:58222) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol2u-0004pr-S9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:30:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol2u-0000UD-14 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:30:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55086) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol2r-0000TO-HZ; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40672 helo=lola) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1Zol2q-0003DK-Ky; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 00:30:37 -0400 Original-Received: by lola (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 17C7DDF643; Wed, 21 Oct 2015 06:30:11 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87y4ewoqbs.fsf@fastmail.com> (Random's message of "Tue, 20 Oct 2015 23:25:43 -0400") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.50 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192263 Archived-At: Random832 writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: >> >> That's also my point, exactly. Any code in Emacs should use standard >> APIs, and if those APIs need to be fixed, they should be fixed >> regardless. But the need to be fixed does not mean the APIs should be >> bypassed. > > Strictly speaking, Emacs doesn't *have* an API for "quote for POSIX > shells", so it's not being bypassed. The objection to the feature of > only supporting POSIX shells is substantive but has little to do with > bypassing an API. I don't call it a good-weather feature of a car when the wind-screen wipers are broken. -- David Kastrup