From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Karl Fogel Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Recommend these .gitconfig settings for git integrity. 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[74.92.190.114]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 11sm14832558qgx.32.2016.02.01.13.07.16 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 01 Feb 2016 13:07:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y4b4gnf9.fsf@wanadoo.es> (=?utf-8?Q?=5C1?= Fuentes"'s message of "Mon, 01 Feb 2016 21:56:10 +0100") User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/25.0.90 (gnu/linux) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c04::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199144 Archived-At: =C3=93scar Fuentes writes: >*If* the config changes are *required*, I'm all for it, giving the >developer a prominent notice. But what is at stake here is something >very different. You found something that looks like a "something >sensible for the cautious" feature type, and Paul is imposing it on >everyone's Emacs repo. The Emacs developement doesn't need that setting >at all, nor it affects the regular Emacs hacker, who only communicates >with the upstream Emacs repo. And if you worry about the possibility of >the upstream Emacs repo being tainted, just enable the checking on some >build bots (and/or on your machine). Yup. Those are all reasonable arguments. >I think that, given how it was implemented, this change is bad on >itself, and establishes a bad precedent. See my reply to Paul for some >ideas about how to improve the implementation. Requiring from the user >an informed consent is the right thing here. After all, if you convince >the user about the convenience of those settings, maybe he will apply >them on his other repos, which is a much better outcome from your POV, I >guess. Understood. I don't have time to find the appropriate git maintainers' forum myself, bu= t if I did, I would post a link to this thread there and say "See, if you f= olks don't set this to the obvious default in upstream git, you're just goi= ng to cause this discussion to happen on the dev list of every git-using pr= oject out there. Please do the needful!" :-)