From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Marcin Borkowski Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: About curly quotes (again) [Was: Emacs 26.1 release branch created] Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87a81luru4.fsf@jane> References: <83377mls4d.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919173511.GA19168@ACM> <83bmm6h8vr.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919180944.GB19168@ACM> <838thah71i.fsf@gnu.org> <20170919194356.GC19168@ACM> <20170919210925.GF19168@ACM> <87y3paypfz.fsf@jane> <87efqxvf26.fsf@jane> <83377dboij.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1506195636 2529 195.159.176.226 (23 Sep 2017 19:40:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:40:36 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: mu4e 0.9.19; emacs 26.0.50 Cc: eggert@cs.ucla.edu, npostavs@users.sourceforge.net, jwiegley@gmail.com, emacs-devel@gnu.org, kaushal.modi@gmail.com, acm@muc.de To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 23 21:40:29 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dvqHo-0008Os-QH for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35910 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvqHw-00020O-A7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:40:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41112) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvqHp-0001zg-Be for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:40:26 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvqHo-0007Gt-DS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:40:25 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([195.110.48.8]:33392) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dvqHk-0007Dq-Pb; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 15:40:20 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6C7E6AEC; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:19 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at mail.mojserwer.eu Original-Received: from mail.mojserwer.eu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.mojserwer.eu [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id knpwxot8fju3; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (static-dwadziewiec-jedenpiec7.echostar.pl [109.232.29.157]) by mail.mojserwer.eu (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id D5085E602E; Sat, 23 Sep 2017 21:40:12 +0200 (CEST) In-reply-to: <83377dboij.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 195.110.48.8 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:218734 Archived-At: On 2017-09-23, at 14:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Marcin Borkowski >> Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:18:25 +0200 >> Cc: Paul Eggert , John Wiegley , >> Emacs developers , >> Kaushal Modi , >> Alan Mackenzie , Eli Zaretskii >> >> >> > FYI, the curly quotes in info are produced by makeinfo, not Emacs, so >> > text-quoting-style will not affect them. If you use makeinfo 4.13 then >> > you won't get them. Also note this entry in NEWS.25: >> > >> > *** 'isearch' and 'query-replace' can now perform character folding[...] >> > For instance, the ASCII double quote character " will match all >> > variants of double quotes[...] >> > Character folding is enabled by customizing 'search-default-mode' to >> > the value 'char-fold-to-regexp'. You can also toggle character >> > folding in the middle of a search by typing 'M-s ''. >> >> Thanks, I'll check it. >> >> Still, the _default_ behavior is broken here. > > If it's broken, it isn't broken by Emacs, right? Kind of. If TeXinfo's default is now to use curly braces, can't it be switched off? I did not use TeXinfo myself - it must have been the Emacs' makefile who did this. If Emacs' makefile orders TeXinfo to use borked quotes, Emacs itself should turn isearch folding so that I'm able to look for them in Info buffers, no? It's a matter of consistency, isn't it? Best, -- Marcin Borkowski