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[94.62.139.188]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id j8sm70145410wrt.40.2019.01.21.13.49.31 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Mon, 21 Jan 2019 13:49:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: (Richard Stallman's message of "Mon, 21 Jan 2019 15:59:22 -0500") X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4864:20::335 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:232585 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > To ask "who started it" is to oversimplify. Of course, and this was not my thesis at all. I had hoped it had become clear in my message, but I'll state it again: _I started it_, at least I started this newest string of "harshnesses". And then I proceeded to describe the reasons why I did so and also why I ended it. If you don't care at the moment for the material causes leading up to this, that's quite understandable, since they are mostly technical. But I had to provide them nonetheless. > Have you read https://gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html? No. Only very lightly. You have my word I will do so soon. Jo=C3=A3o