Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

[Lars Ingebrigtsen]

eric@ericabrahamsen.net (Eric Abrahamsen) writes:

>     * lisp/gnus/message.el (message-draft-headers): The Date header should
>     reflect when the message is sent, not when it was saved or delayed.

Oh, and one other thing -- perhaps this should be mentioned in NEWS?

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Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:

> eric@ericabrahamsen.net (Eric Abrahamsen) writes:
>
>>     * lisp/gnus/message.el (message-draft-headers): The Date header should
>>     reflect when the message is sent, not when it was saved or delayed.
>
> Oh, and one other thing -- perhaps this should be mentioned in NEWS?

I've never really known what's NEWS-worthy and what isn't. My gut tells
me that changing an option's default -- when the new value doesn't
represent an addition or removal of features -- isn't worth it. If this
change ends up significantly changing behavior for some users, I think
that would be a sign of unintended consequences and we should consider
rolling the change back until we understand it better.

2¢...

Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:12:26 -0700
> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
> 
> > Oh, and one other thing -- perhaps this should be mentioned in NEWS?
> 
> I've never really known what's NEWS-worthy and what isn't. My gut tells
> me that changing an option's default -- when the new value doesn't
> represent an addition or removal of features -- isn't worth it.

My rule is: if there's a doubt, then there's no doubt, and the change
should be in NEWS.  The reason is simple: there are no downsides to
putting unimportant stuff there, but users do get annoyed by changes
that aren't called out there.  So, a net win.

Thanks.

Re: master 7725fbc: Remove the Date header from message-draft-headers

[Eric Abrahamsen]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> From: Eric Abrahamsen <eric@ericabrahamsen.net>
>> Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2020 12:12:26 -0700
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>> > Oh, and one other thing -- perhaps this should be mentioned in NEWS?
>> 
>> I've never really known what's NEWS-worthy and what isn't. My gut tells
>> me that changing an option's default -- when the new value doesn't
>> represent an addition or removal of features -- isn't worth it.
>
> My rule is: if there's a doubt, then there's no doubt, and the change
> should be in NEWS.  The reason is simple: there are no downsides to
> putting unimportant stuff there, but users do get annoyed by changes
> that aren't called out there.  So, a net win.

Sounds like a fine rule! I'll put it in now.