From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Po Lu Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: "Why is emacs so square?" Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2020 11:38:57 +0800 Message-ID: <87a738401a.fsf@yahoo.com> References: <863691n4xl.wl-me@enzu.ru> <87imhw431x.fsf@yahoo.com> <73306A04-0843-42D6-84CB-C01C399A8A91@traduction-libre.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="80343"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cc: emacs-devel To: Jean-Christophe Helary Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 19 05:39:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0o2-000KmC-OB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 05:39:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37002 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0o1-0002oh-N0 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:39:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40142) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0nV-0002OL-Ob for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0nV-0003Xl-4A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:39:09 -0400 Original-Received: from sonic317-33.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.184.44]:42540) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jQ0nU-0003Uv-KN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 18 Apr 2020 23:39:08 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1587267546; bh=C3nlBiBU2POUVAXzZPqheESPpHxZhGF9b6JxyTXGovE=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From:Subject; b=NXrud5XKcjZoTHl/7HDvlOEGvRVk2qK2+0PXu2faLtW2Uc0se3KslOHC+kBxFqMSbv8ByhyJkdkmo4WWoTAFls8yTLsnRB2fpZm+YpAV+XCX07uk2Dl/ld0Kxs0yZCWr+0lmGsBc/9VJluOsfLGDtgXv9zp2XJCzTw6hGMD3VhjWyIjweCJGWiN+ix2w2VT2gJmEvQhSHUVdZiMlObsRO16Wj25LYXdkCmFiIt6oJBYFgcFJ522z2v2wFcyw3ohxYuYQHYPW87vj9fzCAfCQUAaEr6szCgHy4mIbql1RWp5U1il0IbDoU1Ny/bM5kegZrlr7y/ikm1O/TpbVzu5Qew== X-YMail-OSG: RtRGMGcVM1lzX.JF17kfuzLAr3WMrrJSjjTf0sI.SZktLWZNjcn7taE2hINvVAg w_XjG53tJPSqEXxzJrDYHG246XT4Av1N0H2t4ld7fgte0yvHCyB53SKkzO.Adnaw4ZzIXD0O4PsM 2tuOTmIYILpr55gVNrB8MLsBOEYQ1FlhwOWnLXvabHUJsIBmf3bYUKwzXjSmcvq6n7edBWfZcVKF b6ySCndWQYJ6QaxUwSNoucdg4lG6YTyQlf9wEKEvK4.6F66MYv26ObQ2IFL_hOCQ4qpcIHaVlciX l.MxpxHoL1UzkdSMXT1HBiM17Bn.2bWwstJnAlWbG7ClDbwOD61bwr8UcfUxqF5hlRsw8HhfVQ3P CirEQOxM12sEumsQKlNqRxbBZqQSd4govpvJ1dQJNlJ3xS.QfCxGKoJA3ZUSnzzdoV4m6Jd.vZog z93.XvX.L52gbrWAKQla2DBPh9oLEVnDH1NOJGTQmR4ic9jPG5G3ViE8_JoY3546vfUzcwXKXfKs ViEVnOntY532gsADLNYSFde0EFFyVNMqMqalgZC4.opyLWF0mp12tzaJr3hjk0Pqqjbdp2Z6l2rN K8mwkluNr66mWcfwElnwIS7q8TICtGL7e1Ku0RDp3LUvKWRlYEMcOhttLPWZWyC9OwlnAk_1bvmP dd._G172VFWRphHtqM0DTJDMlEBhfkl3QTLfvQ_mXYM2_smjXSEsUzk2fR2WVWKroSet2jtkojBD Ol2G5X.mJfb8C3FpyQ082uHnZazPpiciytqTjEseEKB38aEmXo8O8DojU40wl6GvlooaZ_C8ifQJ kDpko4KI_JCjUNIVbf.tIVOJQHY8jo5MDE2jhrUmtJ Original-Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic317.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 03:39:06 +0000 Original-Received: by smtp424.mail.sg3.yahoo.com (VZM Hermes SMTP Server) with ESMTPA ID 3617c6f5faaca622492fb51dbcffe2eb; Sun, 19 Apr 2020 03:39:00 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <73306A04-0843-42D6-84CB-C01C399A8A91@traduction-libre.org> (Jean-Christophe Helary's message of "Sun, 19 Apr 2020 12:05:49 +0900") X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.15651 hermes Apache-HttpAsyncClient/4.1.4 (Java/11.0.6) Received-SPF: pass client-ip=66.163.184.44; envelope-from=luangruo@yahoo.com; helo=sonic317-33.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Linux 3.1-3.10 X-Received-From: 66.163.184.44 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:247268 Archived-At: Jean-Christophe Helary writes: > Maybe it would be nice to have era-based user experiences. Like a 70's > UI package, a 80's UI package, etc. That way it is just a matter of > selecting a package and every generation will feel that emacs is just > what works for them. Just half (maybe quarter) tongue in cheek. I'm not sure that's necessary. It makes sense to have a set of well thought-out defaults that work for everyone, or perhaps a few extra custom themes (ie `gtk') that enable these options and are bundled with Emacs by default.