From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Jonas Bernoulli Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Un-deprecating oset Date: Sun, 17 May 2020 23:19:03 +0200 Message-ID: <87a726tg3c.fsf@bernoul.li> References: <87eery1xhe.fsf@bernoul.li> <87a72d42h2.fsf@bernoul.li> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="115924"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Philipp Stephani , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 17 23:23:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jaQkg-000U4S-CT for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:23:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55442 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaQkf-0007sz-AS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 17:23:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57776) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaQgn-0005Uq-Aa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 17:19:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([212.243.197.30]:47680) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jaQgj-00057A-VH for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 17 May 2020 17:19:17 -0400 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC516660; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:19:04 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: by Hostpark/NetZone Mailprotection at hostpark.net Original-Received: from mail.hostpark.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail0.hostpark.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10124) with ESMTP id oCTgKZdW-LvB; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:19:04 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by mail.hostpark.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id F2BF31661A; Sun, 17 May 2020 23:19:03 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: none client-ip=212.243.197.30; envelope-from=jonas@bernoul.li; helo=mail.hostpark.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/05/17 17:19:04 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = ??? X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=0.001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:250669 Archived-At: Stefan, we have now have heard a few additional voices that are mildly in favor of keeping `oset'. What's next? Philipp Stephani writes: > I definitely agree that oset shouldn't be deprecated. Not that I like > it with a passion, but we should in general never deprecate anything > that isn't actually broken or causes trouble. This deprecation seems > to be mostly motivated by a desire for hypothetical cleanliness, which > isn't a good enough reason. Seems like a good argument to me. Much shorter than when I tried. Jonas