From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eduardo Mercovich Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Interactive guide for new users Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2020 10:20:03 -0300 Message-ID: <87a6x7csfw.fsf@mercovich.net> References: <875z8ortot.fsf@gkayaalp.com> <83lfhjkq0r.fsf@gnu.org> <8620B5CD-CA92-46BF-80A8-DBE7052F4CA6@gmail.com> <87d02haj4g.fsf@mercovich.net> <87ft7dn0um.fsf@posteo.net> <831rix3ci8.fsf@gnu.org> <878sd5aba5.fsf@mercovich.net> <83y2l51uh1.fsf@gnu.org> <874knta1e4.fsf@mercovich.net> <83imc90zbk.fsf@gnu.org> <87eemun5dh.fsf@mercovich.net> <834knpykwl.fsf@gnu.org> <87wo0kirgm.fsf@mercovich.net> <83imc4v8u7.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3979"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: mu4e 1.3.3; emacs 27.1 Cc: =?utf-8?B?R8O2a3R1?= =?utf-8?B?xJ8=?= Kayaalp , Eli Zaretskii , emacs-devel@gnu.org, philipk@posteo.net, Stefan Kangas To: Yuan Fu Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 30 15:21:16 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kNc2m-0000sq-1Y for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 15:21:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45130 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNc2l-000667-4S for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:21:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:59418) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNc1n-0004oY-V5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from gil.mayfirst.org ([162.247.75.206]:49239) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kNc1m-0003jj-2J; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:20:15 -0400 Original-Received: from gil.mayfirst.org (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by gil.mayfirst.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49E805ED8; Wed, 30 Sep 2020 09:20:12 -0400 (EDT) Original-Received: from [127.0.0.1] (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (Authenticated sender: xxxxx) with ESMTPSA id C65665EAC In-reply-to: X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP Received-SPF: none client-ip=162.247.75.206; envelope-from=eduardo@mercovich.net; helo=gil.mayfirst.org X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/09/30 09:20:12 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, UNPARSEABLE_RELAY=0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:256750 Archived-At: Hello Yuan. [...] >> I wouldn't be worried about that. Just post the list you can come up >> with, and others will chime in. > I think a methodology that can produce a decision is helpful. IME > people can=E2=80=99t converge on a result that no one opposes, and eventu= ally > everyone wore out and the discuss stalls. Thanks a lot. That is my observation from reading the list too.=20 >>> That's why I proposed a *process* to do it: we can all add our voices (= all >>> that are interested, at least) and go forward together because we agreed >>> on how to do so.=20 >> IME, talking too much about the process runs the risk to leave the >> discussion there. Having a list to discuss makes the discussions much >> more practical. Eli, the process doesn't seems to gather much discussion and a couple people already liked it in public. It can be run just now if you say yes, so there is no time wasted and a lot to gain if we can go forward together with a common consensus.=20 Please, let's try this approach and if it doesn't work, I promise I'll post= my personal list without a hitch. :) --=20 eduardo mercovich Donde se cruzan tus talentos=20 con las necesidades del mundo,=20 ah=C3=AD est=C3=A1 tu vocaci=C3=B3n.=20 (An=C3=B3nimo)