From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tomas Hlavaty Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars Date: Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:04:01 +0100 Message-ID: <87a6u4imxq.fsf@logand.com> References: <87o8iv3ac3.fsf@gnus.org> <877dpjp30g.fsf@ucl.ac.uk> <87zh2fnmwq.fsf@gnus.org> <87o8ivumn5.fsf@telefonica.net> <87v9d3nkxk.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="39798"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 23 16:04:50 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5h4-000ADX-B7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:04:50 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:42850 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5h3-0001d8-CS for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:04:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:44396) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5gV-000159-Hu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:04:15 -0500 Original-Received: from logand.com ([37.48.87.44]:53278) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ks5gT-0000WO-OZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 10:04:15 -0500 Original-Received: by logand.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id F377419F42D; Wed, 23 Dec 2020 16:04:02 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: emacs 26.3 (via feedmail 11-beta-1 I) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=37.48.87.44; envelope-from=tom@logand.com; helo=logand.com X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:261597 Archived-At: On Tue 22 Dec 2020 at 14:22, Daniel Mart=C3=ADn via "Emacs development disc= ussions." wrote: > Gregory Heytings via "Emacs development discussions." > writes: > >>> >>> I've been trying for more than 10 years to urge people to work >>> toward giving Emacs the document capabilities of a word processor, >>> but I have not convinced people to do this work. >>> >> >> What do you mean by this? I'm probably biased, but I don't see what >> important "capability of a word processor" is lacking in Emacs. > > Something that works like LibreOffice, where you can write a document, > select parts of it, mark them in bold, justify them, etc. All of that > while you see the results in a WYSIWYG fashion. The closest thing > there is now is enriched-mode, but that mode does not offer the same > level of features as LibreOffice. I hit a problem with WYSIWYG when trying to implement the WYG part for emacs-pdf: My console emacs has black background but my paper is white. Any ideas how to handle this use-case in WYSIWYG editor? > There is more context about this potential new feature in /etc/TODO > under the section "Emacs as a word processor". I do not have /etc/TODO file. Is there an M-x command to open that TODO file?