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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263365 Archived-At: Phillip Lord writes: > Eli Zaretskii writes: > >>> > They mostly work, until they don't. Like with Cygwin, there are >>> > subtle incompatibilities, mainly in file names and in communications >>> > with subprocesses and response to "signals". Encoding defaults are >>> > also different. >>> >>> That's true for the msys2 commands but not the mingw64 ones? >> >> Yes. That's why I asked about msys-1.0.dll: the programs that depend >> on that aren't mingw64 (native) programs. > > > But, mingw64 does not have all the packages I need. Ok, here goes a data point: > How do people use Emacs on windows? I install MSYS2 and execute a shell script that installs this packages: universal-ctags-git ag putty-ssh aspell aspell-en aspell-es diffutils (the scripts prepends the names listed above with the corresponding mingw-w64-i686/x86_64 prefix). Then I install emacs with `pacman`, either from MSYS2 binary repository or from the packages I build. > I mean, do they install find, I don't use it. I don't use it on GNU/Linux either (I work 99% of the time on GNU/Linux). > ls, Is it necessary? > git, Git for Windows. > aspell See above. > and all the rest by hand? On my case, only Git for Windows and MSYS2 are installed by hand. BTW, Git for Windows is also based on MSYS2: it installs the required pieces that are required for running the parts of git that still depend on POSIX. It theory, instead of Git for Windows I could also run MSYS2's own git.exe setting magit-git-executable and vc-git-program, without adding MSYS2 /bin directory to PATH, but last time I tried it was somewhat slower than Git for Windows, which is slow enough itself. Also, the later comes with some goodies built-in, such as git-svn. MSYS2 git package requires about 30 MB, while Git for Windows 240. I execute runemacs.exe from wathever/msys64/mingw64/bin. emacs.el sets PATH and exec-path: (defun anade-a-path (path) (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") path-separator dir)) (setq exec-path (append exec-path (list dir)))) (anade-a-path (file-name-directory (car command-line-args))) With this I can execute programs on emacs.exe directory (that is, whatever/msys64/mingw64/bin) with no problems.