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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:263857 Archived-At: >>>>> On Thu, 04 Feb 2021 00:39:11 -0500, Richard Stallman sa= id: Richard> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please conside= r ]]] Richard> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies,= ]]] Richard> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's exam= ple. ]]] >> > Compromise binding: "C-x G", which doesn=CA=BCt clash with magit, = and is >> > relatively hard to type by accident. Richard> Letters following C-x are not case-sensitive. That is a syste= matic rule. That=CA=BCs a new one for me, I thought it was just C-, since you can=CA=BCt distinguish case for those on a tty. Richard> Thai rule is not sacred; for a good enough reason, Richard> we could break it. But this is not an important reason; it is Richard> not sufficient reason to break a rule. OK. Maybe we can find an acceptable binding. Personally I use s-u, but that=CA=BCs not a good candidate as a default binding. Robert