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From: Adam Porter <adam@alphapapa.net>
To: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] New tab-bar-detach-tab command
Date: Tue, 05 Oct 2021 02:17:45 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6jovt2e.fsf@alphapapa.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 878rz8aruo.fsf@mail.linkov.net

Juri Linkov <juri@linkov.net> writes:

>>> Indeed, the key doesn't need to be the first letter of the command name.
>>> For example, since 'C-x t d' was already bound to 'dired-other-tab',
>>> for 'tab-duplicate' I added 'C-x t n' with the mnemonic of "new".
>>>
>>> But a month ago a new command 'clone-frame' was added with the
>>> keybinding 'C-x 5 c'.  So now we have two similar commands with
>>> different keys: 'c' - clone frame, and 'n' - duplicate tab.
>>>
>>> Or maybe these commands are quite different?  I tried 'clone-frame',
>>> but it neither clones nor duplicates the frame - it creates
>>> a completely new window configuration on the new frame.
>>
>> I suppose a `tab-clone' command would be more concise than
>> `tab-duplicate', and it would also fit with other commands like
>> `clone-buffer' (I don't see any other commands in my Emacs with
>> "duplicate" in the name).  Then the binding could be "C-x t c".
>
> The command was named "duplicate" because web browsers
> provide the menu item "Duplicate tab".

Of course, that makes sense.  But since "clone" seems to already be a
term used in Emacs for this sort of thing, maybe we should consider
using it, instead.  For example, `clone-buffer' and `clone-process' both
"Create a twin copy of...".  That the new `clone-frame' command only
"Make[s] a new frame with the same parameters as FRAME" and doesn't
include its window configuration seems like an anomaly (maybe that
should be changed, too, for consistency?).

> Also since 'clone-frame' doesn't duplicate the frame,
> we could add a new command 'duplicate-frame' as well.

Maybe so, but I wonder if it would be better to consistently use "clone"
to mean "Create a twin copy of...", and use "duplicate" to mean
something like what the `clone-frame' command currently does,
i.e. create a copy that shares some attributes but not all.  In that
case, the current `clone-frame' command could be renamed to
`duplicate-frame', and `duplicate-tab' could be renamed to `clone-tab'.

Maybe these details are too subtle to matter, but on the other hand, it
would seem more consistent with existing Emacs jargon if if worked that
way.




  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-05  7:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-28 19:09 [PATCH] New tab-bar-detach-tab command Adam Porter
2021-09-29  1:05 ` Matt Beshara
2021-09-29  7:11   ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-29  7:43   ` Adam Porter
2021-09-29  7:09 ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-29  7:59   ` Adam Porter
2021-09-29 19:43     ` Juri Linkov
2021-09-29 19:54       ` Adam Porter
2021-10-03 17:19         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-04 10:34           ` Adam Porter
2021-10-04 17:33             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-04 19:53               ` Adam Porter
2021-10-05  6:49                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05  7:17                   ` Adam Porter [this message]
2021-10-05 15:27                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-05 16:38                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-06 11:23                       ` Adam Porter
2021-10-06 16:38                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-07 18:02                           ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-07 18:23                             ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-05 15:18                   ` Drew Adams
2021-10-05 16:40                     ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05 17:27                       ` Drew Adams
2021-10-06 16:39                         ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-06 20:20                           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-10-07  7:29                             ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-07  7:43                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 17:58                                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-07 18:19                                   ` Drew Adams
2021-10-07 18:28                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-10-07 15:56                               ` Drew Adams
2021-10-05 16:35                 ` Juri Linkov
2021-10-05 15:15               ` [External] : " Drew Adams

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