From: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: shr using `make-xwidget' incorrectly
Date: Thu, 11 Nov 2021 13:10:36 +0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a6ibz38z.fsf@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87o86rb88a.fsf@gnus.org> (Lars Ingebrigtsen's message of "Thu, 11 Nov 2021 05:56:53 +0100")
Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> writes:
> The same is true for overlays -- you can use `overlays-in' to find all
> the overlays in the buffer, even if they aren't otherwise available. I
> think modelling xwidget behaviour on overlays makes a lot of sense from
> an UI point of view.
Hmm, I will try to think of a reasonable way to implement this. But
IMO, it should be optional -- the existing behavior makes sense for many
use-cases.
> I'm not sure what you mean here. Are you saying that a widget in a
> buffer might just spontaneously disappear?
No, that killing a widget might take an unreasonable amount of time and
be surprising to be implemented like evaporating overlays are.
Imagine if the erasure of a few characters took upwards of 1 second,
deleting dozens of on-disk cache files. That is a situation that might
result from implementing evaporation of xwidgets like with overlays.
> I don't think the functions that use xwidgets should have to know about
> any of this stuff. Imagine if you'd have to jump through these hoops to
> display images?
Better comparison: imagine if `struct image' was a Lisp object (and not
an internal structure created on the basis of an image spec), held tens
of megabytes of memory, a lot of non-replicable state, an entire
language interpreter, and control over many cache files on-disk.
Then would it still be reasonable to delete `struct image's as part of
some routine pruning operation such as flushing the image cache, or the
erasure of a few characters in a buffer? I think not.
Thanks. But I will try my best to find an acceptable solution to this
problem.
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Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
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2021-11-11 1:54 ` shr using `make-xwidget' incorrectly Po Lu
2021-11-11 3:26 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 3:38 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 3:41 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 3:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 4:46 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 4:56 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 5:10 ` Po Lu [this message]
2021-11-11 12:33 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 12:37 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 12:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 12:47 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 6:37 ` Introduce "killed" state for xwidgets (Re: shr using `make-xwidget' incorrectly) Po Lu
2021-11-11 7:59 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11 9:28 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 12:23 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2021-11-11 12:25 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 15:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-12 0:18 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 6:58 ` shr using `make-xwidget' incorrectly Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11 7:05 ` Po Lu
2021-11-11 8:01 ` Eli Zaretskii
2021-11-11 9:27 ` Po Lu
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