From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Pluim Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Speeding up the bootstrap build - a quick hack. 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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:284924 Archived-At: >>>>> On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 09:05:08 -0500, Stefan Monnier said: >> I think this would be far cleaner and less fragile if you used an >> order-only prerequisite instead of inventing new suffixes. Stefan> I can't see how that would work. The current ELC+ELN rules are= for Stefan> `%.elc`, and here we also need those same `.elc` but built with Stefan> another rule. Now I=CA=BCm confused. We need to build the .elc files twice? (BTW, if the use of suffix rules is holding us back, I thought we now required GNU Make, so we could switch to pattern rules). Robert --=20