From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Niklas Eklund Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Name dtache.el Date: Fri, 20 May 2022 14:23:46 +0000 Message-ID: <87a6bccmfh.fsf@posteo.net> References: <87y1zq5vt7.fsf@posteo.net> <87wnf56ix0.fsf@posteo.net> <87sfpt6ikz.fsf@posteo.net> <87zgjq33tb.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="25166"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org, Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri May 20 17:47:46 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4qs-0006Iw-H6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 17:47:42 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:55928 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns4qr-0007ti-3A for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 11:47:41 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48850) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns3Xl-0002EQ-Nd for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 10:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mout01.posteo.de ([185.67.36.65]:49657) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1ns3Xj-000493-FL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 20 May 2022 10:23:53 -0400 Original-Received: from submission (posteo.de [185.67.36.169]) by mout01.posteo.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E19F240027 for ; Fri, 20 May 2022 16:23:47 +0200 (CEST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=posteo.net; s=2017; t=1653056628; bh=8WNONADVJe7/6AShRi73BnJDYa5pK870LNpk9VAVOWs=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:From; b=cvYkkO8ox16BoybiF+vPAgk0rC1Feur21oi1ut1SYvMwz/8E6+sHQoH0oVAK0iThD NtK64SbeuwsHImphAdTwN18Ptu3nNR7QriEfBYAqTXrDcmvEL0mxsM9+APnHfFm2lZ FBAk9UWX+hq6K8EJjtgCXKyMn6U6d3EwF9ZIZJL0F1979Z0G8prD7SJRM1oszXO83z ExeIi24674eBxwNQY/m7J90O68GZMocDe5VfYAEU9W5yFaJ2TaSp0ppqZFFR0N5NJI zsoclp51MiW7HArZo4G1obDPJY+TrZtoGv37MM7jqXSzHacgajqJfEeSQzCEmcLzf0 cfsV+ip4s5tlA== Original-Received: from customer (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by submission (posteo.de) with ESMTPSA id 4L4TVW0845z6tmW; Fri, 20 May 2022 16:23:46 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87zgjq33tb.fsf@posteo.net> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=185.67.36.65; envelope-from=niklas.eklund@posteo.net; helo=mout01.posteo.de X-Spam_score_int: -43 X-Spam_score: -4.4 X-Spam_bar: ---- X-Spam_report: (-4.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 20 May 2022 11:46:22 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:290004 Archived-At: Niklas Eklund writes: Hi, I have gotten around to update the name of the package from dtache -> detached.el. Here is a patch that can be applied to the elpa repository in order to update the elpa-packages file. I am not sure what to do about the name of the branch, if I was suppose to update that or if a maintainer can do that to make it aligned with the new name. /Niklas > Richard Stallman writes: > >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >> >> The name "dtache" is less helpful than it could be. How about >> renaming it to the clearest name we can think of? "detached" would be >> an improvement, but perhaps we can find one even better. > > Its a good point, thanks for the input. I think its current name makes > sense once you know about the package, but it might not be the best in > giving others a sense of its capabilities. > > In short I think what the package provides can be summarized as: > - the ability to launch detached processes > - a convenient interface to interact with said processes, or integrate > them into Emacs > > I agree that the word "detached" is more clear than its current name. An > additional benefit with that name, which I didn't think about first, > would be that it ends with ed. That would make it align better with > other tools such as dired/proced which provides functionalities that > resembles the second bullet in my list above. > > /Niklas > >> -- >> Dr Richard Stallman (https://stallman.org) >> Chief GNUisance of the GNU Project (https://gnu.org) >> Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://fsf.org) >> Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)