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V. Raman's message of "Mon, 05 Sep 2022 07:29:59 -0700") Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::332; envelope-from=rpluim@gmail.com; helo=mail-wm1-x332.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:294749 Archived-At: >>>>> On Mon, 05 Sep 2022 07:29:59 -0700, "T.V Raman" sa= id: T> Suppose we: ... T> 1. Look forward to the Wayland-only world (ie No X) I know that will= be T> a while... T> 2. But suppose, in that world, we could write an Emacs Window Manager T> (whatever that means under Wayland) ... T> 3 Will things get easier in that somewhat pure world where one doesn= 't T> have to both look backwards and forwards as we are apparently for= ced T> to do right now? I don=CA=BCt know about the equivalent of exwm, but forking wlroots and fixing up some of the more egregious annoyances might be doable. Robert --=20