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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295821 Archived-At: Po Lu writes: > Didn't Gerd say deleting all the checked in *.elc files was what "make > bootstrap" was originally intended for, though? It's developed over the years to do more, and we've been saying "have you tried 'make bootstrap'?" to people for decades now for all kinds of reasons. We shouldn't change that, since that's what people will find when googling.