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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:295983 Archived-At: Michael Heerdegen writes: > Including "place form"? I mean, it also has an advantage: it allows to distinguish between the "place", the location, of a value (to be referenced or modified), and the "place form" that describes that location. The disadvantage is that the word "place" alone can be misunderstood (as describing a location in the code, for example). Michael.