From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Matt Armstrong Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Help sought understanding shorthands wrt modules/packages Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2022 21:13:20 -0800 Message-ID: <87a650n21b.fsf@rfc20.org> References: <87r0yemgt2.fsf@rfc20.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="16969"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Nov 09 06:14:23 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1osdPr-0004Fw-54 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 06:14:23 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osdP2-0001YE-6O; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 00:13:32 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osdP0-0001WC-PS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 00:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: from relay8-d.mail.gandi.net ([2001:4b98:dc4:8::228]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1osdOx-0006Is-Qt; Wed, 09 Nov 2022 00:13:30 -0500 Original-Received: (Authenticated sender: matt@rfc20.org) by mail.gandi.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 379C81BF203; Wed, 9 Nov 2022 05:13:22 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=rfc20.org; s=gm1; t=1667970803; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=UJh9aPa4JkmRbECCXqgr4Y/t8pzA0gspTu1iyWMozAQ=; b=WKu3ZfNd03iMQBPQp/L9KeT0lfRTHB3EkJ6ZWDdujWtTg/+gDpCnfmHtS2cqnIICIW5RKM P6ZutAEusY1Oz2oXdB+Fqi39U/nuODaoNqAZO2M5MFEzAI+FbwCmeoMJnlykdKBmIDzqbI VdGrC6md0V164dYZraAlU3YVVkm3oAIymsXxOZnIkIfX5PFZYvOulk2+Aj5Wm1OXTdikcY 1qb4I6WPEmp0O3zl7obb0s1f+LAsIYN9SxLESdV1TRESbzgkTRACBSus9SDSH262FiwU0a 5bQgq/m+Rzpe50amDeRVijpyeRXWMFdQ4CX6D6tYosT/KEIG8p30VbYUVn8+Zg== Original-Received: from matt by naz with local (Exim 4.96) (envelope-from ) id 1osdOq-001fhU-2Z; Tue, 08 Nov 2022 21:13:20 -0800 In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:4b98:dc4:8::228; envelope-from=matt@rfc20.org; helo=relay8-d.mail.gandi.net X-Spam_score_int: -27 X-Spam_score: -2.8 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.8 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:299379 Archived-At: Richard Stallman writes: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > > I believe he described the "misfeature" he is > > concerned about more clearly in > > https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/emacs-devel/2022-10/msg02165.html. > > There, I think Gerd made the convincing argument that the situation is > > acceptable in current CL standards. > > I have all the mail on emacs-devel in my saved inbox > but that reference to a web archives does not enable me to find this one. > > If you would show the From and Date fields of the message, > with those I can actually find it. From: Richard Stallman Subject: Re: No to CL packages Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2022 17:59:32 -0400