From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Emanuel Berg Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Arguing for a nilp function and where to put it Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2023 01:44:17 +0200 Message-ID: <87a5zofs4u.fsf@dataswamp.org> References: <831ql416bp.fsf@gnu.org> <875yadhc52.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87v8icssy1.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3103"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Cancel-Lock: sha1:UyJ+ZB/vgUXNWZGwTOfJ/z6OzC4= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 04 04:22:22 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjWJS-0000dK-H8 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 04:22:22 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjWIT-0002Ca-B4; Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:21:21 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjTwW-0003iA-TN for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2023 19:50:33 -0400 Original-Received: from ciao.gmane.io ([116.202.254.214]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1pjTwR-00042L-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2023 19:50:32 -0400 Original-Received: from list by ciao.gmane.io with local (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pjTqZ-0004dr-KQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2023 01:44:23 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Mail-Copies-To: never Received-SPF: pass client-ip=116.202.254.214; envelope-from=ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; helo=ciao.gmane.io X-Mailman-Approved-At: Mon, 03 Apr 2023 22:21:20 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:305090 Archived-At: Roland Winkler wrote: >> As you know, but it's interesting to those who don't ... >> >> (info "(eintr) Strange Names") >> >> The name of the cons function is not unreasonable: it is >> an abbreviation of the word "construct". The origins of >> the names for car and cdr, on the other hand, are >> esoteric: car is an acronym from the phrase "Contents of >> the Address part of the Register"; and cdr (pronounced >> "could-er") is an acronym from the phrase "Contents of >> the Decrement part of the Register". These phrases refer >> to specific pieces of hardware on the very early computer >> on which the original Lisp was developed. >> >> Hm ... That was in 1958? What kind of machine was that? > > But (info "(eintr) Strange Names") goes on: > > Besides being obsolete, the phrases have been completely > irrelevant for more than 25 years to anyone thinking > about Lisp. > > When was this written? Maybe 25 years ago? Maybe the number > should be updated. But that way, in 25 years, it has to be updated again. Damn! -- underground experts united https://dataswamp.org/~incal