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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:306918 Archived-At: Hello, On Sun 18 Jun 2023 at 03:14PM +08, Po Lu wrote: > I find myself often frustrated that Git requires a commit title. In > such a title, committers are expected to summarize in detail changes to > dozens of different functions in less than 74 characters of text. Yes, it doesn't fit well with Emacs changelog practices ... > Normally, the place for such descriptions would be in ChangeLog and > not the commit message title. Would it be possible to allow writing > commit messages consisting solely of ChangeLog, forgoing the commit > title entirely? ... but this renders C-x v L so much less useful, and anyone who uses git for other projects will be used to using that view of things a lot. -- Sean Whitton