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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:312199 Archived-At: On Fri, 03 Nov 2023 23:46:22 +0100 Emanuel Berg wrote: > Bob Rogers wrote: > >> I'm sorry I'm apparently unable to be more concrete about >> explaining my impressions. Part of this is due to the >> elapsed time. ISTR that, when I started reading Elisp in the >> mid-90's, it had a "retro" feel compared to the other Lisps >> I was using. As time went on, I've had to hit C-h f more and >> more to understand what was going on, not only for language >> features (pcase has been mentioned), but for editing >> features like indirect buffers and overlays as they were >> added -- not strictly part of the language, but again, >> where's do you draw the boundary? > > To be honest, I have not seen any. > >>> Case in point, I don't see any such difference when I look >>> at cl-lib.el? >> >> Between cl-lib.el and what? > > We have to get the Emacs 18 source so we can compare :) You can find several versions here: https://github.com/larsbrinkhoff/emacs-history Steve Berman