From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Jose E. Marchesi" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: a mode for algol 68 Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:14:10 +0100 Message-ID: <87a5qv9ye5.fsf@gnu.org> References: <3R4QN2M2RR03N.2G0ADM6I6F823@venera> <87h6l390o3.fsf@posteo.net> <3MK0RH5X3RU1M.2EGMR40E2C1SK@venera> <87r0k7a31e.fsf@gnu.org> <875y1j8kek.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3353"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Cc: Omar Polo , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Philip Kaludercic Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Nov 30 14:15:45 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r8gtN-0000Zo-E6 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:15:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8gry-00064o-Rp; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:14:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8grw-00062z-Qr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:14:17 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r8grv-0002cM-2S; Thu, 30 Nov 2023 08:14:15 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gnu.org; s=fencepost-gnu-org; h=MIME-Version:Date:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:To: From; bh=hzMe3a2pZNWaFJn9U33PzuuIINbLLyPjeiiz9HEd0Jo=; b=JlUNMFGy3swk3ZYDNTBx NCO00Xeo+JKJU4OiNcqeRoHGqlXqPx5kPf2ZO958jSoPrHkR7Eo55l5ZIoyyVPtHrgEfZ/l/dlMvk Ta2T432g4PHMTLTgOflth9Jhqr8gz2qneUnluFe2zWJU/1SvOlEYUrz3Yj246j6cYdLp/UGMWH4eN 8V/RmoGE09hz35pauWP6JMxO7unMO4gAMqPh1u/HplKaeLN9NtDpYanusbfNcc/Agq4wOzz/NLYwF sb9hoSitPQa5gDkNgq+2sUpNBi7P0tLMx6yNe1dkvx7skTu2gwUsIUGicPeDUgDsGDldx2aFGT61k fSCgwKea27r2FA==; In-Reply-To: <875y1j8kek.fsf@posteo.net> (Philip Kaludercic's message of "Thu, 30 Nov 2023 13:01:39 +0000") X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313395 Archived-At: > "Jose E. Marchesi" writes: > >>> On 2023/11/30 07:10:20 +0000, Philip Kaludercic wrote: >>>> Omar Polo writes: >>>> >>>> > (please Cc: me since I'm not subscribed to this list) >>>> > >>>> > Two years ago I started hacking on Jose E. Marchesi' algol-mode (that >>>> > I've renamed a68-mode) while I was playing with the algol68g compiler. >>>> > Truth to be told, I think I've spent more time hacking on the emacs mode >>>> > that with the language itself, but anyway... >>>> > >>>> > I haven't touched the mode any more for the last two years, and I doubt >>>> > I'll hack again on it in the future. Although it's almost finished, >>>> > there remains issues with the indentation and font-locking in some >>>> > cases. >>>> > >>>> > My hope would be that some friendly hacker would take interest in >>>> > maintaining it and maybe even distribute it in ELPA / NonGNU Elpa. >>>> >>>> I think it would be very nice to have this added to GNU ELPA. If the >>>> code works (and I see it isn't too much), it shouldn't be too much of a >>>> maintenance burden, so I'd be fine with helping out. >>>> >>>> > On the copyright side, I don't know Jose E. Marchesi and I copied >>>> > initial the code from some random github repository. Not great, I know, >>>> > but it was the only major mode for algol68. However, I *do* have an FSF >>>> > copyright assignment and I ended up rewriting almost all of the code in >>>> > the end. I paied attention to do the 'initial import' with the original >>>> > code as-is and do my changes on top. It's 53 commits in total. >>>> >>>> I cannot evaluate this myself, do you a link to the original GitHub >>>> repository? >>> >>> I took the code from >>> https://github.com/lachrymology/me/blob/master/.emacs.d/extras/algol-mode.el >>> but upon a closer look it seems to originate from here: >>> https://www.jemarch.net/algol68.html >>> >>> I'm cc'ing Jose E. Marchesi using the mail found on (presumibly) their >>> website. Having a @gnu.org account makes me think that there shouldn't >>> be copyright issues :-) >> >> I have papers in place for Emacs, and I am totally willing to transfer >> the copyright for a68-mode.el's original code (whatever of it survives >> in latest algol-mode.el) to the FSF. > > OK, in that case everything should be given to add the package to GNU > ELPA. The only matter left discussing is if you want to continue to > host the repository yourself and have the ELPA server mirror the > repository regularly. No. I would rather update my page to point to whatever place where the mode is hosted and maintained. >>> I apologize for not searching better initially, I should have contacted >>> Marchesi in the first place. I somehow have completely missed their >>> website. >>> >>>> > The code is available here for browsing here: >>>> > >>>> > and can be cloned with git via anonymous SSH via >>>> > or with HTTPS via >>>> > . >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Thanks, >>>> > >>>> > Omar Polo