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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:322666 Archived-At: Eli Zaretskii writes: >> From: arthur miller >> Date: Mon, 12 Aug 2024 05:30:08 +0000 >>=20 >> Even better, given people proper FFI so they can import and use any of t= he tens >> or hundreds of quality math libraries available. > > Not going to happen, and you know it. Na=C3=AFve question, why? I had this problem not so long ago because I want= ed to bind libpq, and I had to abandon the whole idea because dealing with dynamic modules was way too inconvenient. Having something similar to Common Lisp FFIs would make it trivial. Best, --=20 Nicolas Martyanoff https://n16f.net nicolas@n16f.net