From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jeremy Baxter Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Reconsider make-backup-files default value Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 11:29:35 +1200 Message-ID: <87a5g84hn4.fsf@baxters.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3059"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: James Ipswich Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Sep 16 01:34:10 2024 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1spykr-0000eh-Dc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 16 Sep 2024 01:34:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spyk8-0003GL-Ei; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:33:24 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spyk5-0003Fw-Il for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:33:21 -0400 Original-Received: from out-187.mta0.migadu.com ([2001:41d0:1004:224b::bb]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1spyk2-0000jb-NC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 15 Sep 2024 19:33:21 -0400 X-Report-Abuse: Please report any abuse attempt to abuse@migadu.com and include these headers. DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=baxters.nz; s=key1; t=1726443190; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=WhfG357XeSInxF1MnGErY/OSoPrbGTxEitImIQMd9ls=; b=b6Jg+3Fx1ruyJ/FjViGHHTQkt/vhEBb4eyQr5ncj7E18b3avoIuJKEIoa6PhJwK30FyaxL UkmH+zA2HVD3v6c8Xf6IwPFpNIfIifXbdh0iWD/lMRDcSTExLYxeDGs77VXbWf/0KqtLZN Vkhd7K4Tee0no8f/fb9ghlDboER1xXKK1q/O1b4bsmudaipYGauDqG/pMM6VzT/I0cEOxf 2ZXFBKoBcNe8Tkl3V2jnNRUe/3/OZi+CgnToQhomLSruNMRNXyPw0QFAmiqCp8UTtmYySI qwMZLHZyS7OPY63dJGKu4tPMKRaA5oXng1x88UUa1198oqQHpPGx3+iZthY+Zg== In-Reply-To: (James Ipswich's message of "Sun, 15 Sep 2024 22:19:42 +0000") X-Migadu-Flow: FLOW_OUT Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2001:41d0:1004:224b::bb; envelope-from=jeremy@baxters.nz; helo=out-187.mta0.migadu.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323647 Archived-At: James Ipswich writes: > Personally, I think make-backup-files should default to nil or some > other less intrusive configuration, which would be better aligned with > the rest of Emacs defaults and how other software behaves. > > Any thoughts? I also think this default behaviour can be quite annoying but having automatic backups can also come in very handy at times. A possible solution to the leftover backup issue is storing backup files in some specified directory, such as .emacs.d/auto-saves. I think vim stores them somewhere in .local/state, in my opinion it's quite a neat solution compared to Emacs' current strategy. Jeremy