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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:323776 Archived-At: Summer Emacs writes: [...] > What would I replace it with? Well, I favour something like the logos rep= resented here: > > https://github.com/egstatsml/emacs_fancy_logos > > It's still the Emacs logo, but it looks more modern. I=E2=80=99m not sayi= ng we > should use *those* in particular, but you can see how it changes > things up a little bit while it keeps the Emacs logo the same and adds > some nicer colours to the whole arrangement. Again: I don=E2=80=99t want = to > get rid of the Gnu, I like the Gnu. I think the Gnu is awesome. I just > think some might want to consider using a logo with the Gnu that is > something a bit more=E2=80=A6this century than last. Emacs isn=E2=80=99t = just about > the past, it's about the future too. I think it is a waste of effort to discuss points like these. It is easy to have differing opinions on the matter, but it essentially boils down to the value of appearing modern or not. [...] > In summation, the new order would read something like this: > > Emacs Logo (as usual or changed - either way) > > =E2=80=94> New Emacs User? Click here. <-- > Emacs Tutorial > Emacs Manual > Emacs Guided Tour > Ordering Manuals > > GNU and Freedom > Copying Conditions > Getting New Versions > Absence of Warranty > > Authors > Contributing I do think the idea of a prominent "Click here" button would be a good idea! [...] --=20 Philip Kaludercic on siskin